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One estimate I have heard (and not personally checked to confirm) was 300  
Diablo size nuclear power plants (~10 MW). I think that this was just for
soldering reflow and wave and did not include baking.
 
Presently there are approximately 50,000 power plants in operation (source:
CARMA) of which 438 are nuclear and which produce 17% of the power (source:
ICJT).
 
Joe
 
 
In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:52:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

Thanks Steve,

That's an interesting article but it doesn't put the big picture together.
It would be cool if someone could figure out what the total impact to the
environment would be for all the soldering equipment in the world!

Thanks again,

KennyB
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:42 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Ken Bloomquist
Subject: RE: [TN] [LF] The Cost of EU RoHS: $32.7B

Hi Kenny!

There's one article that I remember reading and did a search for it.
Luckily, I found it (even blind pigs find acorns once inna while!). Here
it is:

http://tinyurl.com/44dpnr

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ken Bloomquist
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:26 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] The Cost of EU RoHS: $32.7B

Hi Joe,

The one number I keep waiting to see but never seems to show up is the
environmental impact from the excess power required for the higher
temperature processing requirements of all the electronic manufacturing
equipment to process lead-free. With all the coal fired power plants
polluting the air to meet these higher temperature requirements the
increased carbon emissions have to be staggering.

KennyB

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Fjelstad [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:51 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] The Cost of EU RoHS: $32.7B

Thanks for the message and link, Michael. Interesting (sobering?)
reading.
The annual cost numbers cited are likely to rise, I would be willing to
bet.

Sounds like Harvey Miller's year 2000 prediction in his monograph
"Lead-free, Why?) of a price tag of 80 to 100 billion might be near the
mark at the end of the day. And then, of course, there will be the
ongoing higher costs for

the extra energy for baking and reflow and higher temperature laminates
and

warranty pay outs (which by the way are on the rise, as I understand
according to a friend with a son who is an actuary in the insurance
industry)

Sadly WEEE makes RoHS (i.e., lead-free) unnecessary. The justification
that

it makes electronics recycling safer is self-serving in my opinion. The
data does not support the claim. Poor recycling practices for RoHS
compliant products will be no less hazardous than for those containing
less than 0.5% lead.


Wish there really was some environmental benefit to it all to justify
the
cost. (or that I had at least purchase a boat load of tin metal
futures...;-)

Nothing quite like legislated market demand...

I looked out the window. The sun is shining. It is going to be a good
day

Thanks agian

Best regards,
Joe


In a message dated 4/19/2008 6:33:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

Well FINALLY the results of the survey we (along with Technology
Forecasters...I actually brought the project to them to be the lead on
since
market research at this scale is their forte, not ours) did for the
Consumer
Electronics Association last fall have been published. See the article
in
Purchasing at http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6552729.html.

Just to add a bit to this report that's missing, we determined that
annual
maintenance is a little above 10% of of the initial cost to comply
(which
is
the $32.7B number). So to date it's cost the industry around $40B.

And that's just EU RoHS...not China RoHS, Korea RoHS, Californy RoHS,
or
any
other of your favorite regulations. They're all incremental, of course.

So if you're working on REACH, track your hours and keep those
receipts...I'm sure we'll be coming around again to ascertain the cost
to
industry of that in a couple years.

Michael Kirschner
President
Design Chain Associates, LLC
415.904.8330
--
Design Chain Associates, LLC - Design Chain Solutions for Competitive
Advantage

www.DesignChainAssociates.com
www.ChinaRoHS.com
www.KoreaRoHS.com

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