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Many waste flammable materials are used in fuel blending operations for 
power or heat generation.  The flammable mixture is metered into a flow of 
fuel oil and burned along with the fuel oil, either to heat boilers for 
power generation or to heat concrete mixing tanks.  Water is sometimes 
beneficial in the mix in that these more volatile waste solvents cause the 
flame to burn hotter and outside the original design parameters for the 
burners.  Metering in the water helps to cool down the flame back to safe 
levels. 

Doug Pauls




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All I know is that they pick up my IPA and use it to burn when making 
concrete for the highway construction. 

Terry
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Date:         Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:33:43 
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Terry,
That sounds dangerous. I once had a friend who got really drunk and passed 
out in the mix trough. You haven't really had a hangover until you've 
waken up to find your hair cured in a block of cement. 

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We have a waste disposal company that uses the 5 gallons of collected IPA 
water solution above 60 percent IPA to burn to make concrete.

Terry Munson
Foresite
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Date:         Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:28:40 
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As far as I know, clean alcohol is not classified a poison. If you pour 
some gallons a year in the wast water, the alcohol will be mixed in 
proportions 1:trillions. Won't that be harmless? And DI is already water. 
I'm not meaning to depreciate the laws, but sometimes I think we 
exaggerate things.
I had about half a litre of used acetone in a glass bottle in my lab. The 
environmental inspection group made a raid one day and saw my bottle 
without label. They ordered me to buy a special, explosion safe metal can, 
pour the waste acetone in, and send the whole to an adress for 
destruction. If not,they had the right to close my lab. I didn't argue 
with them, took the bottle with the waste acetone to my home and found it 
useful for this and that. Cheaper, faster, simpler. Am I a bad guy?


Inge

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Från: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Bev Christian
Skickat: den 11 mars 2008 18:16
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Phil,
We bottle it in used IPA bottles (with new WHMIS labels - Canadian federal 
protocol for chemicals) and then we have it removed by a bona fide waste 
hauler.  Not sure what they do with this mixture, but for just spent 
IPA/acetone/toluene (no water), it is burned for fuel.
Bev
RIM


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:13 PM
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Subject: [TN] disposal of alcohol/DI water solution

Hey Technetters,

It just occurred to me that in using the alcohol/DI water mix for 
determining the cleanliness of a circuit board, somewhere along the line 
this becomes a waste fluid and needs to be disposed.  What are your 
disposal methods?  I'm sure the local waste water folks would look poorly 
on alcohol being added to the waste stream... unless it was Johnny Walker 
Black or Stoli in their pockets.

Phil Nutting

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