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Hi Jack! I have a pretty good visual to explain cross section artifacts 
that I use to assist my co-op students with the phenomena. Take a sheet of 
paper and draw a view of a plated thru hole in a top down view point, 
making sure that you have both the internal and external diameters drawn 
such that your plated thru hole wall has some reasonable thickness (i.e. 
like a half inch!).  Now draw a line across the centerline of the plated 
thru hole and a second line that 25% of the distance between the hole 
centerline and the hole ID. Now use a ruler and measure the hole wall 
thickness at the centerline and at the 25% distance - the 25% pth distance 
is going to appear to be "thicker" as an artifact of where you are cross 
sectioning the pth (the true pth wall thickness is skewed by position)! 
The location and orientation of where your cross section dissects the 
sample can cause some confusion. Hope this helps.

Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins 
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Re: [TN] FAB: Thin Trace Failures






I may owe the group an apology...

For the curious, I'll answer the questions people asked me:
- the product has been in production for a long time with no problems.
- product must operate at 125C, so after ICT we do a "hot" functional 
test.
- all at once we had massive fallout, ICT okay, hot NOT.
- failures in random locations, unpredictable
- same vendor, all boards from same same date code
- bare-board vendor on chinese holiday, no response yet

We sent a few failed assemblies out to be analyzed, and the
picture I provided in the link below was the first thing we got back,
but with no analysis

Since then we have found cracked via barrels, which seems
to be a more likely culprit. (but I'm no expert)
If I asked for help without waiting for enough supporting info,
I'm sorry.

but I would like to know more about "cross section artifacts"?
Where can I learn about that?
I can't visualize how the cross section could be a normal beginning
or an ending of a trace, but maybe I'm showing my ignorance
willing to learn,
Jack


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On 2/7/08, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> 
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>
> Beware of cross section artifacts.   If this is not the sites you were
> aiming for it may not be a defects.   Could the beginning of a trace or
> the ending.   I see this often.
>
>
> Victor,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack Olson
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] FAB: Thin Trace Failures
>
> Has anyone ever seen a cross-section like this?
>
> http://www.frontdoor.biz/PCBportal/opentrace.jpg
>
> (ignore the words on the pic, just a guess)
>
> Can you point me in the right direction for cause?
>
> thanks,
> Jack
>
>
>

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