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Hi Joe,
We've known each other for quite a few years and you know I hold you  in high 
regard and appreciate your "very out of the box" thinking and your  
contributions to the industry.  You also know that I have a very open mind  to new 
technologies and processes. 
I've also known Dr. Ron Lasky for many years and consider him a close  friend 
and valued colleague.  Dr. Ron is a very open-minded and objective  thinker.  
While he does have a consulting affiliation with a solder  company, he is an 
independent thinker and beholden to no one. He does not  "sell solder" nor 
does he have any vested interest in any solder or materials  company.  He is 
foremost, among other things, an accomplished and  popular professor at Dartmouth. 
Anyone who has ever met Dr. Ron and engaged  him in conversation soon realize 
that he is an incredible "thinker".   
I personally believe that some of the "downsides" of the Occam process Dr.  
Ron has presented are quite legitimate.  They are worthy of consideration  and 
discussion and should not be dismissed as something akin to "conflict of  
interest".
It would be in the best interests of everyone, Joe, if you address the  
issues Dr. Ron has raised and, perhaps engage him in debate rather than dismiss  
him in a way I really don't think you meant to.
Sincerely,
Phil Zarrow
ITM Consulting
Durham, NH  USA
_www.ITMconsulting.org_ (http://www.ITMconsulting.org) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/17/2008 5:08:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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Hello Robert, 

I trust all is well with you in the great  Pacific Northwest. It has been a  
while since we've crossed paths.  

Thanks for taking time to pose your questions. I'd like to share  my  
thoughts 
with you on the subject.

First, I personally  don't think there is any such thing as a panacea. Nor  
must the Occam  process be a panacea to be considered a success, it  must 
simply 
fill  a particular need successfully. 

That aside, over time there have  always come along some  new technologies 
that had some advantage in  some areas over some  incumbent technology or 
process 
solution. But  in the present situation,  solder is not going to go away 
immediately  because of Occam. There is  simply too much invested in 
equipment and  
people will want to take  advantage both of what they have and what  they 
know. 
As one bit of supporting  evidence, I would note that you  can still buy DIPs 
even though they  are clearly cannot match the  size, performance or 
manufactured 
cost  benefits of SMT parts.   

As for Dr. Ron Lasky's "less than all embracing"  attitude,  he is selling 
solder technology for a living and is not  likely to be  supportive of any 
assembly method or process that  proposes to  obviates solder's use. Dr. 
Ron's "meet 
the enemy at the  gate and  attack the threat" approach is thus easy to 
understand  (though his problem  statements are a bit off track in my  humble 
 opinion). 
Sierra Proto is not as easy to explain  since they have  been talking about 
researching the embedment of resistors  and using  plating for 
interconnections. 

No worries, in either case, technologies  evolve at their own pace and  there 
are those who choose to risk and  drive evolution and those who choose  to 
play 
safe and follow. It is  normal. Then again, if some folks in this  industry 
did not risk  developing soldering equipment many years ago, we  would still 
be  
twisting wires together, so "hats off"  to those who chose to drive  that 
early 
change from which we have all  so greatly benefited.  Another good thing, at 
least in this industry,  there is room for  everyone at the table even those 
who 
question the need to   change.

Back to your comments... You might have  read last week that Georgia Tech  
has 
just announced its own efforts  to eliminate solder but that is just the  
latest. There is a growing  number of house hold name companies  around the 
globe 
that have  nascent efforts underway to examine the potential of  solderless  
assembly of their products especially in high reliability   applications. For 
example a company in Brazil has built and in   building assemblies for 
evaluation 
for a customer  greatly concerned  about all of the problems of lead-free 
that 
continue to  be discussed  on a daily basis in this forum.  

Of course, the proof will be "in  the pudding" as the saying goes. and  to 
answer the question daisy  chain assemblies will be run side by side with  
lead-free assemblies.  Which ones will fail first? That will be seen and you  
might 
have  your own predictions but to be honest with you, I have never  seen 
anyone  
shake, mechanically shock or thermal cycle the circuits traces  off  of a PCB 
and industry experience with over square aspect ratio   plated copper vias 
has 
been very good.

Ultimately, it is about have  some small measure of willingness to embrace a  
little change and as  the editor of one Japanese technical magazine  said to 
his readers in  an article he wrote about the Occam process late last  year: 
"When  evolution happens, always there is resistance". Fortunately, he was   
someone 
whom it appears is in favor of change and evolution or he would  not  have 
written the article.

I look forward to showing you  some of the demonstration assemblies  that 
have 
been already built  the next time we meet. I'll buy the beer...  :-)

Very best,  
Joe   



In a message dated 2/17/2008  8:05:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
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I have been reading about the  OCCAM process and the  rebuttal of people like 
Dr. Ron Lasky and companies  like Seirra  Protr Express.  Does anyone have an 
opinion regarding the   process and what are its chances of being the panacea 
for eliminating  the  lead free process?

Robert  Hanson







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