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I've been reading all of the TN emails which cover a wide 
Phil,



I've been reading all of the TN emails which cover a wide range of

speculation from brittle fracture to poor solder joint because the

temperature was too low. All of the speculations are good but they are

based on what contributors think they see in the cross section that is

posted on Steve's site.  I've been struggling to understand what is

really happening but I feel the quality of the cross section isn't good

enough to be able to know what the defect is.  I can't see if there is

IMC and if there is I can't see if the separation occurred between the

IMC and Ni plating or between the IMC and bulk solder or within the IMC.

What I see in the photomicrograph is a BGA solder ball that appears to

be attached to a solder mask defined pad on the package that is

approximately 10% smaller in diameter than the solder mask defined pad

on the PCB.  If you had formed a good solder joint to the PCB and there

was mechanical stress on the solder joint I would have expected the

separation to have been at the interface to the package rather than at

the PCB interface.   If you like I have access to a world class

metallographer and I'm sure if you sent me the cross section it would

only take him a couple of minutes to re-polish the cross section and I

could provide you with photomicrographs of the re-polished cross

section.



Regards,

George

George M. Wenger

Andrew Wireless Solutions

Senior Principal FMA / Reliability Engineer

40 Technology Drive, Warren, NJ 07059

(908) 546-4531 [Office]  (732) 309-8964 [Cell]

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-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory

Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:58 AM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [TN] Samsung Memory BGA Failure



Hi Phil!



Got the picture you sent yesterday afternoon posted now, it's at:



http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/LP_BGA_Crack.jpg



Man, fractured clean through! Do all the fractures look like that?



Steve



-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phillip Bavaro

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:59 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: [TN] Samsung Memory BGA Failure



I am wondering if anyone else out there has run into a problem with a

Samsung Flash memory device (in this case, the 0.8 mm pitch, 107 pin

sac305

BGA) where the connections are cracking right at the interface between

the pwb and ball.



I had read about some Samsung BGA problems but cannot find the link to

the information now.



We have other BGA's on the same board without any issues.  Shear

strength test results are very low as well (if the flash has not already

popped off by itself).



I'll try to get some pictures to Steve to put up tonight.  My current

thoughts are CTE's are grossly mis-matched as we haven't found anything

on the pads to account for the gross failure.



Thanks in advance,



Phil



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