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Agreed - but the customer had already made that decision!

Peter 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Yuan-chia Joyce Koo [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 22 November 2007 01:04
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Peter Swanson
Subject: Re: [TN] Epoxy application

guys, may be I am out of lunch... change material consider at major
change.  Unless you know the assembly design spec and operation
condition (operational temp range,vib level, etc.), you could not just
swap RTV for some rigid material.  good luck...jk On Nov 21, 2007, at
10:58 AM, Peter Swanson wrote:

> Peter,
>
> You don't say how many of these you are making, but with that proviso:
>
> 1) A single part "chipbonder" or surface mount adhesive like the one 
> mentioned will require a substantial heat bump to cure.
>
> 2) Rather than an epoxy, maybe a methacrylate adhesive would be better

> - often less brittle, but good all round adhesion. Something like 
> Araldite
> 2022 is a two part product, but in a cartridge, so easy to apply.  
> Might
> still me a bit smelly through....
>
> 3) If you have,  or can justify the purchase of the equipment, then a 
> UV acrylic adhesive does this job well. No mix, fast cure, good 
> adhesion, choose your viscosity and the right resiliency to give the 
> stress relief.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
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> Peter Swanson           [log in to unmask]
> INTERTRONICS                http://www.intertronics.co.uk
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>
> INTERTRONICS is dedicated to providing quality material, consumable 
> and equipment solutions to the high technology, high performance 
> assembly industries, incorporating outstanding levels of technical 
> support and customer service.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
> Sent: 21 November 2007 13:28
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Epoxy application
>
> Hello, Peter
> I have a client using Loctite 3621 epoxy in a very similar 
> application.
> It bonds to the mylar sleeving very well. Try it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter L
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:00 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Epoxy application
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to ask for opinion on an epoxy application. We apply RTV 
> to bond and secure 2 electronic devices on a PCB.
>
> But after noticing the RTV bond breaking off during vibration test, 
> our customer has specs in a 5min 2-part epoxy (made by
> http://www.devcon.com/techinfo/5_MINUTE_FR.pdf) to replace the RTV.  
> The
> problem is that the Devcon epoxy is fast cure, requries 2 part mixing,

> and carries a strong, irritating odor. I would like to move away from 
> using Devcon and expect that there must be more process friendly epoxy

> for such application.
>
> The 2 materials to be joined were a flat ferrite inductor and round 
> capacitor having a PVC sleeve. Due to positioning of the 2 devices 
> there is generally a ~0.25" gap between them for the epoxy to fill. 
> The epoxy bead deposit is about .75" long x 0.5" wide. (see following 
> link to the assembly
> http://members.shaw.ca/ppwlee4/Epoxy_appl.JPG)
>
> I am looking for recommendation of a suitable epoxy to allow:
>
> - 5-10 min working life before it starts curing
> - process friendly (smell, preferrable no pre-mix)
> - good adhesion to the component/PCB surfaces.
>
> Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
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