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Phil, since you already says "It Depends", I won't.
If you state a required level of cleanliness, you MUST also quote by what 
method, which then generally tells you what equipment. 

If you said that the assembly must be less that 1.56 ug/cm2 NaCl 
equivalence when measured by IPC-TM-650, method 2.3.25, then the equipment 
is determined for you.  If you said that you had to have less than 2.5 
ug/cm2 of chloride when measured by method 2.3.28, that likewise gives you 
the general equipment you need.    You might look at IPC-5701 which 
discusses the issue in more depth.

A simple but effective test?  Mutually exclusive terms in my view. 

About the simplest test I would recommend is the modified ROSE procedure, 
using a temperature-compensated dip probe in place of an ionic cleanliness 
tester.  And I would only use it for process control, not product 
acceptance.  If you REALLY want to know if product is acceptable going out 
your door, you need an IC system (IMNSHO).  It does not have to have all 
the bells and whistles that the salesman will tell you you absolutely MUST 
have, without breaking the bank.

Doug Pauls




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Re: [TN] cleaning concerns






Dewey,

This dovetails into what I'm looking into.  So if I state a required
level of cleanliness, what equipment do I have to buy to prove it? 
I know "it depends" so it should be tailored to what is simple yet
effective.  Mercedes or BMW type equipment is out of range.  I'm
thinking something just above the diesel Chevette level. 

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
(EHCOE)
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] cleaning concerns

That's a week answer. The real answer will cost me another royalty
donation to the Doug Paul's Defense Fund for Battered Chickens, but it
depends. The range of time could be from ASAP (a maximum one hour) to
eternity (meaning never). Some of the things to consider are as follows:

*         Laminate

*         Final surface finish

*         Solder Mask

*         Spacing

*         Component orientation

*         Assembly surface topography

*         Material compatibilities

*         Cleaning chemistries

*         Solvency capabilities

*         Flux chemistries

*         Cleaning process residuals and their chemical make-up

*         Thermal excursion exposures during processing

*         Cleanliness requirements

*         Conformal coating or not

*         Testing requirements

*         End use environment

*         Warranty issues

*         Cost

 

Dewey

 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Linda Langley
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:40 AM
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Subject: [TN] cleaning concerns

 

 

Can anyone tell me or direct me to documentation that specify how long
flux residue from WS609 63/37 can be left on a board before washing?

 

I was informed that it could be left on for 7 days . 

 

Linda Langley 

Jabil Circuit 

Training Specialist 

(248) 292-6176 

 

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