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Hi Paymon

Yes that is indeed the spec I refer to.

The timeframe for 004 revision I would expect around 2009  
publication. Meantime, 2.6.3.7 is already available as is IEC 61189-5  
5E01

Kindest regards,

Graham

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On 27 Sep 2007, at 22:27, Paymon Sani wrote:

> Hello Graham,
>
> Are you referring to the HP's electrochemical migration, EL-EN861-00
> test method? Do you know the time line for the overhaul?
>
> Thank you,
> Paymon
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Naisbitt
> Sent: September 27, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test
> Methods
>
> Paymon and Bev et al
>
> We are in the process of an overhaul of SIR in J-STD004 since the
> introduction of 2.6.3.7 in March 07.
>
> Also be aware that HP have instigated their own SIR tests we are all
> trying to take on board.
>
> Whatever tests you are being asked to perform, be very careful with
> the data retrieved.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Graham Naisbitt
> Co-Chair IPC SIR TG
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> On 27 Sep 2007, at 16:10, Paymon Sani wrote:
>
>> Bev, this was expected since you are now a grandfather. Time is  
>> taking
>> its normal course :)
>>
>> My wife and I had our first born 2 weeks ago but I am feeling sharper
>> than before!!!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paymon
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
>> Sent: September 27, 2007 10:40 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test
>> Methods
>>
>> Paymon,
>> Paymon,
>> I must not have taken my happy pill this AM.  In Jack's absence, Tom
>> Newton has pointed out to me that I must not be awake this morning.
>> (He
>> was more diplomatic than that.)  The version of 2.6.3.3 on the  
>> webpage
>> (June 2004) is of course NEWER than the version in the old 818 doc
>> (Jan
>> 1995). I do not know what I was thinking.
>> Bev
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paymon Sani
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:41 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test
>> Methods
>>
>> Hello Bev,
>>
>> Thank you for the speedy response, I verified it with our supplier
>> too.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paymon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
>> Sent: September 27, 2007 8:38 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test
>> Methods
>>
>> Paymon,
>> IPC-SF-818 is OLD!  I had to go looking to find my dusty copy of it.
>> This is a dead document.  In it at the back it has the IPC-TM-650  
>> Test
>> Method 2.6.3.3 of March 1988.  The NEW version, 2.6.3.3, rev B, which
>> you can download for free from the IPC webpage, is from, I presume,
>> June
>> 2004, since it says 06/04.  I checked other test methods and they  
>> show
>> the year as the second number.
>>
>> Interesting!  If I go and look at my hard copy of ANSI/J-STD-004
>> (January 1995), at the back of it the copy of 2.6.3.3 is labelled as
>> Revision A, yet it has a date of January 1995, which is a newer date
>> than the Revision B on the IPC webpage.
>>
>> Jack!!!!!!!!!!!?
>> (Jack is at the IPC meetings this week.  We will probably not hear
>> from
>> him until Monday.
>> Bev
>> RIM
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paymon Sani
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:29 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test
>> Methods
>>
>> Does anyone know the difference between these 2 tests? Our flux
>> datasheet refers to the IPC-SF-818, Class III test method for the SIR
>> test result but it does not provide the resistance value! Does this
>> test
>> method supersede the standard SIR test method as per J-STD-004?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Paymon
>>
>>
>>
>>
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