Hi Bev - sorry but you are a bit behind in your historical references.
North American waterfowl hunting (Canada, US, Mexico) have been using
nontoxic (e.g. nonlead shot) for over 5 years now. The elimination of
leaded shot is one of the good examples of how science was used to show
that lead was a problem. Of course, the cost of a box of shells is much
more expensive but at least there is good science for the ban (unlike the
RoHS legislation).
Dave Hillman
fanatic waterfowl hunter
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John,
I am glad they are banning lead for hunting bullets. As I have noted
here on this or the LeadNet forum, lead shot has been a big problem in
states like Minnesota. Most of the shot does not end up in birds (then
picked out while they are being prepared to be eaten or while eaten -
ouch), but in shallow marshes where the migrating water fowl eat it
thinking it is grit/small stones that their gizzards can use to grind
their food. Ironically they die - not directly of lead poisoning, but of
starvation, as the lead destroys the functioning of their gizzard.
Bev
RIM
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:01 PM
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I believe it should be illegal to bomb the World with poorly thought out
lead free legislation........................8-)
By the way California passed a law this week to ban lead in bullets for
hunting .............
John Burke
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Hanna
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:36 AM
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Wouldn't it though be illegal to bomb a country with lead-free
legislation in place unless the weapons systems were compliant?
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Genny Gibbard
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:19 AM
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Military is not EXEMPT, it is OUT OF SCOPE. The directive does not
apply at all to military (other than the indirect massive impact the
directive has had). The directive has no legislative control over
military electronics.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: September 12, 2007 8:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free?
No specific alloy is "forbidden" in military electronics.
In general, solders and fluxes are categorized per and must comply with
J-STD-004, J-STD-005, and J-STD-006.
Specific solder alloy types are called out on assembly prints and BOMs
per MIL-STDs and Weapon Specs.
Military, traffic control, industrial safety, some medical, and many
other products are exempt per RoHS and IEEE exemptions.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dave Dixon
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free?
Check out
Air Force's Airworthiness Advisory AA-05-01 It isn't very forceful in
the wording, but is the closest thing I could find so far to support my
cause. If anyone knows of any documentation forbidding lead free in
military products, I would sure appreciate a heads-up.
Thanks,
Dave
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of ekalgren
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:06 PM
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Subject: Military Exemption from Lead-Free?
I believe that I remember someone mentioning a military end-use
exemption from lead free requirements. Am I remembering correctly or is
this just wishful thinking? If it is true, can anyone point me in the
direction to get it in writing?
Thanks!
Eric Kalgren
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