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Could I have examples of what PCB assembly protection (perhaps conformal
coating) is used for products to be used in outdoor (Stop lights,
Automobile, etc) under harsh environmental conditions

Angel Reyes
Principal Engineer
Rain Bird Corp./controls Mfg. Div
9491 Ridgehaven Ct
San Diego Ca. 92123
Ph:(619) 661 4429


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Solder mask as an insulator - illustration posted

Another alternative is to form the resistor leads in the "hairpin"
style, and place the resistor perpendicular to the PWB. 

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kerry McMullen
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Solder mask as an insulator - illustration posted

Phil,
Dumb question, but can you put the resistor on the bottom of the board,
and live with it?



Kerry McMullen
Principal New Product Mfg. Engineer
LTX Corporation
825 University Avenue
Norwood, MA 02062-2643
(T) 781-467-5468
(C) 508-631-1832
(F) 781-461-0993



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Re: [TN] Solder mask as an insulator - illustration posted






Good Morning folks,

I created a graphic to illustrate our "punch through" problem as I don't
have any photographs of the failed board/part.

Steve Gregory has posted the illustration at
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/LPI_punch_thru.jpg.  Thanks Steve.

Phil

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Solder mask as an insulator

Maybe. How many components, and what type? Can you post a picture on
Steve Gregory's wall? It is a lot easier to solve the puzzle if we can
see what the situation is.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:59 AM
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Subject: [TN] Solder mask as an insulator

Let me start with, I know that we should not rely on the LPI solder mask
as an insulator.  So I need recommendations for a simple and cost
effective solution.

Problem parameters; 0.062 thick FR-4 with 2 oz copper and LPI mask.  PTH
components laying on traces that go under the parts.  PTH parts are
shorting to the traces.

Our fab house is against adding a second layer of LPI mask.  On face
value a second layer sounds good and easy, but I know there are issues
too long to list.

Short of raising the components above the board, applying an insulator
under the components or a new board layout is there a better way of
preventing this shorting problem?

Thanks in advance.

Phil Nutting
Design for Manufacturing Engineer
Kaiser Systems, Inc.
126 Sohier Road
Beverly, MA 01915
voice: 978-922-9300 x1310
fax: 978-922-8374
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
www.kaisersystems.com

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