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Thanks for the good information.


>From: Hernefjord Ingemar <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>,              Hernefjord 
>Ingemar <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] Seeking design information on PWB conductor spacing for 
>high voltage (500-1000 VDC) applications
>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:06:43 +0200
>
>We have a rather simple thumb rule for top conductors:
>
>flashover 1,250 VDC/mm for dry air
>flashover 2,500 VDC/mm for solder mask
>flashover 7,500 VDC/mm for potted board
>
>to avoid creep current you need following distance between top
>conductors:
>
>7 mm/kV up to 3,000 meter altitude without protection, clean air
>15 mm/kV up to 3,000 meter    "        "       "      , dusty air
>25 mm/kV up to >3,000 meter   "        "       "      , std environment
>5 mm/kV up to 3,000 meter     "     with protection, std environment
>2.5 mm/kV up to >3,000 meter  "        "       "          "
>
>We make MIL products, UL and other commercial requirements are of course
>different.
>The cleanliness of the boards is mainly the deciding basis for the
>isolation distances.
>
>This information is based on rather old stuff, but I think not much is
>changed.
>
>Inge
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gerald Bogert
>Sent: den 17 augusti 2007 00:24
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [TN] Seeking design information on PWB conductor spacing for
>high voltage (500-1000 VDC) applications
>
>August 16, 2007
>
>
>
>IPC-2221 section 6.3 and the associated table provides specific
>electrical conductor spacing requirements for voltages up to 500 volts.
>However, for voltages > 500 volts, it defaults to a formula in section
>6.3.
>
>
>
>What is the technical basis for the minimum spacing requirements that
>are
>listed in the table?   How reliable is the formula for voltages > 500
>volts.
>How valid is the formula if we have 1000 VDC on the PWB?
>
>
>
>Since the table does not specifically list minimum electrical spacing
>for voltages > 500 volts is the formula just a "SWAG" or based on real
>data?  If so, what is the formula based on?
>
>
>
>Does anyone have design standards for high voltage PWB spacings that
>they are willing to share?
>
>
>
>We had an OEM that had recent field failures (shorts to internal traces)
>of a conformal coated multilayer FR4 PWB (0.062 in) that has both low
>(logic
>voltage) and high (approx 780 VDC nominal) circuits.  The board was
>required to be designed to IPC-D-275 requirements, and the table in 275
>is basically the same as in IPC-2221.
>
>
>
>The PWB is being redesigned and I need to verify the new design meets
>reliable and valid minimum conductor spacing requirements.  Are there
>any design standards other than IPC-2221 that could be used for high
>voltage PWB?
>
>
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