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Thank you Dave, you have once again succinctly nailed it! Of course my
customer is looking for a report that substantiates your answer and it
sounds like that's still a ways off with CALCE and NASA/DOD.

Thanks again, you da man!

KennyB

-----Original Message-----
From: David D. Hillman [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:26 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] SAC Soldered With SnPb

Hi Technet! Pbfree component finishes - a very cool subject that gives
all 
of us ulcers! I have no doubt there will be a Dilbert strip some day 
showings an engineer rambling about the "old days" when all we had were 
tin/lead surface finishes. It is easier to cover the topic of Pbfree 
component finishes if we break it up into a couple of segments.

Area Array Components (BGAs, CSPs, FCs) - there are a couple of industry

camps: those folks who solder a Pbfree BGA in a tin/lead solder process 
with a reflow temperature that achieves good solderpaste/solderball
mixing 
and those folks who rebump the BGA with tin/lead solderballs. There is 
plenty of industry data which shows that a nonhomogeneous area array 
solder joint has poor integrity so the industry folks has been focused
on 
getting a uniform solder joint. The industry camp that raises the reflow

temperature has to deal with the potential temperature impact on the
other 
components on the assembly. The industry camp that rebumps the BGA has
to 
deal with the potential impact on the BGA integrity.  Great discussion 
topic to exchange beers over!

Other Components - there is a persistent myth that Pbfree component 
surface finishes can not be used in a tin/lead solder process. I wish we

could put that myth in the ground and forget about it sometime in the
near 
future. In a tin/lead solder process we diffuse a non tin/lead surface 
finish into the solder joint, we don't melt them into the solder joint. 
The industry is very good at doing this - we have utilized gold, 
nickel/palladium/gold, tin, palladium silver, etc., for many years
making 
solder joints with good integrity. Due diligence is needed on 
understanding that you don't have some weird metallurgical issue result 
from a component surface finish/solder joint combination but combining 
Pbfree component finishes with a tin/lead soldering process is very
simple 
and not rocket science.

As for Ken's question: What about a SAC component surface finish? Well, 
its a Pbfree surface finish that has a high tin content. Hummm,  sounds 
like a matte tin finish with a little bit of silver added and the
industry 
solders matte tin surface finishes all of the time. There will be a
pretty 
decent industry data set on this topic by APEX. The gang at CALCE has
SAC 
surface finishes under test, the NASA DoD consortia (formerly the 
JCAA/JGPP group) has SAC surface finishes going into test and a number
of 
other organizations/investigators are chasing the topic. My opinion is 
that a SAC component surface finish is not a solder joint integrity
issue 
if the reflow solder process uses adequate time/temps.  If the industry
is 
competent with soldering matte tin surface finishes, then a SAC finish 
should not be any greater issue (and yes, I didn't mention tin whiskers
on 
purpose!). 

Enough said - time to find a Diet Coke and harass Doug!

Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bloomquist, Ken
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] SAC Soldered With SnPb

We are a Class 3 manufacturer and are looking at the different lead
finishes that can be soldered successfully with SnPb. One that we are
having a hard time finding information on is SAC lead finish soldered
with SnPb. I know that it's not good practice for BGA's but what about
SMT and through-hole parts?

Thanks in advance,

KennyB

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