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When you indicate a quick Google search on the topic, wh
Cheryl,



When you indicate a quick Google search on the topic, what topic are you

referring to?  Copper creep is typically a thermal issue with copper

alloys and I'm not sure I've every seen it related to immersion silver

surface finish.



Regards,

George

George M. Wenger

Andrew Corporation Wireless Network Solutions

Senior Principal FMA / Reliability Engineer

40 Technology Drive, Warren, NJ 07059

(908) 546-4531 [Office]  (732) 309-8964 [Cell]



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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cheryl Tulkoff

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Subject: Re: [TN] Silver PCB finish and reliability (question)



Carl -



Immersion silver is our finish of choice for most of our PCBs - both

leaded

and lead free. There is one known reliability issue referred to as

"copper

creep." In customer environments with high sulfur along with humidity

and

air flow, you can get catastrophic failures. This usually affects vias

or

other areas where there is no solder over the silver. Both Dell and HP

have

published on the topic and we have confirmed failures due to the problem

as

well. We have been working with the immersion silver finish suppliers on

potential improvements.



Industries like tire manufacture, water treatment, paper processing etc.

are likely candidates for problems.



You can do a quick google search on the topic. If you cannot locate the

papers, you can contact me for more details.



Cheryl Tulkoff

Senior Reliability Engineer

Phone:(512) 683-8586

Fax: (512) 683-8520

National Instruments

11500 N. Mopac Expressway

Building C

Austin, TX 78759-3504









 



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For non-BGA, surface mount boards, we have always ordered HASL boards.

In

our progress towards ROHS compliance, management has changed the default

specification to ENIG.  Our board house has HASL, ENIG, and Silver as

options, with Silver at about the same price as HASL and ENIG with a

significant premium (along with a 2 to 3 days added to the processing

time).  When I asked management why we couldn't use Silver, I was told

that

there are significant problems with the Silver processed boards (with no

real explanation).



My question to the Group:  Is there any good reason to avoid Silver as a

surface finish on my consumer and industrial boards?



Your scary stories are welcomed . . .



Thanks,

Carl











Carl Van Wormer

Cipher Systems

1800 NW 169th Place, Suite B-100

Beaverton, OR  97006

Phone (503)-617-7447 extension 20









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