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Sorry, sent the previous e-mail "earlier" :-) 



The reason I said "almost" is that black pad usually affect a whole pad and it seems not to be the case in the Inge's case :-)



Hi Dave,



I'm almost completely with you  and that was another reason I asked Inge whether he happened to have a X-section of a bad lead.

:-)



Vlad





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Hi Vlad! If I am interpreting Inge's photo number 4 correctly [realize I didn't get to see it on the SEM in person : - ) ], I see the nickel surfaces which have no wetting of solder. Gold dissolves into solder at 100 uinches per second (Bader data) there should be no gold on those surfaces. In brittle interface fracture, I expect to see very few regions of nonwetting - the failure is due to the poor properties of the Sn/Ni intermetallic (e.g I get good wetting, its just not a strong interface). In cases of black pad, I expect to see very few regions of good wetting, the nickel surface has been corrupted such that I don't form the Sn/Ni intermetallic (e.g I get terrible wetting and never form a good interface). Thus my comments for picture 4. 



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Hi Dave,



I'm lost:-) how come you know there was no Au in the areas where we see Ni?



Brittlle Failed ENIG joints wqill have a similar "muddy" appearance



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Vladimir



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Hi folks and thank you Steve for being "TechNet Picture Central"!  Sorry 

but just to warn everyone but I am going to use the "B" word shortly. Inge 

- take a close look at picture 4. As Werner pointed out the gold is 

non-wetting the nickel  in number of locations. What really jumped out at 

me is that "mud flat" appearance on some of the nickel surface regions - a 

"mud flat" appearance is a classic indication of black pad! I recommend 

you complete a cross-section to confirm that you have nickel grain 

boundary attack. 



But since it is Friday, go have a beer and worry about this on Monday!



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Hi Inge!



Got your pictures posted. Took me a bit, I was swapping our wave

solderpot from 63/37 to HMP. Done now. I'm getting quicker, I can do it

in 20-minutes now. Took me about 45-minutes when I first did it...



Anyways, here's the links:



http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Pic1.jpg

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Pic2.jpg

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Pic3.jpg

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Pic4.jpg

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Pic5.jpg

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Pic6.jpg



-Steve-



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Have an issue with (randomly) lifted FPGA leads.

Pic 1: good joint after pull test

Pic 2: ditto but high magnification

Pic 3: "rotten" joint after pull test

Pic 4: ditto but high magnification

Pic 5: "rotten" cross section

Pic 6: ditto but high magnification



60Sn on ENIG, obviously a brittle region. Suspect Kirkendall voids, but

the pockets with zillions of Tin spheres (0.1 to 2 um in size) points at

insufficient peak temperature to make 100% melt and good solidifying. If

these little balls were Lead, I could understand, but they are Tin!

Never seen like. Any "quickhead" out there, need fast advice. 



Note: Pic 2, you can see the underlying board pad nickel as dark areas. 

An experienced analyst will hopefully recognize. No Phosphorous peaks!



My Friday headache.



Inge



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