May its soul rest in peace......
And... may god have mercy on us...
And-for those who survived the MIL requirements and were then thrown into
the big wild world:
Who will remember us?.....
Francois Villon (15th Century French Poet)
a.. "But where are the snows of yesteryear
Tell me now in what hidden is
Lady Flora the lovely Roman?
Where's Hipparchia, and where is Thais,
Neither of them the fairer woman?
Where is Echo, beheld of no man,
Only heard on river and mere,--
She whose beauty was more than human?...
But where are the snows of yester-year?
Where's Heloise, the learned nun,
For whose sake Abeillard, I ween,
Lost manhood and put priesthood on?
(From Love he won such dule and teen!)
And where, I pray you, is the Queen
Who willed that Buridan should steer
Sewed in a sack's mouth down the Seine?...
But where are the snows of yester-year?
White Queen Blanche, like a queen of lilies,
With a voice like any mermaiden,--
Bertha Broadfoot, Beatrice, Alice,
And Ermengarde the lady of Maine,--
And that good Joan whom Englishmen
At Rouen doomed and burned her there,--
Mother of God, where are they then?...
But where are the snows of yester-year?
Nay, never ask this week, fair lord,
Where they are gone, nor yet this year,
Except with this for an overword,--
But where are the snows of yester-year? ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bev Christian" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure
>A man I respect in the industry on these matters said (and this applies
> to more than electronics), that "quality is dead". Remember the mantra
> is "smaller, cheaper, faster" or some such. In the late nineties they
> said "quality is of course assumed", but I think that has gone out the
> window now, in the general sense.
> Bev
> RIM
>
> The opinions expressed herein are my own and do not necessarily
> represent those of the company that I work for. (And I am making no
> inferences one way or the other about our own products.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wolfe, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure
>
> Joe,
> Just a thought without any real data (but sure has me wondering
> slightly).
> EVERY single piece of electronic equipment I've purchased
> within the last year has either failed almost out of the box or soon
> after.
> This includes 2 notebook computers, a PA Amp, 3 cell phones, a wireless
> phone, an all-in-one printer.
> Now yes like many have stated here with out data there is no case and
> there are many reasons that could be the problem, and may not have
> anything to do with RoHS.
> But from a John Q. Public buyer standpoint was I jinxed this last year
> were the odds not all in my favor, could be but certainly has me
> wondering
> why 100% of what I bought electronically never had problems till this
> past
> year everything had a problem (100%)???
> From my point of view I was starting to think maybe don't buy any
> electronics for awhile?
> Especially since the practice of many companies is, even if your unit
> failed
> in only 3 months, you might get a refurbished unit that is much older
> back.
> Yes they guarantee it is in perfect working order again, but just my
> opinion, if the unit breaks in the first 90 days you should get a brand
> new replacement.
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Hudson
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure
>
> I would suggest that it belies your undoubted professional expertise to
> make
> the assumption that this failure has anything to do with RoHS-compliance
> or
> lead-free. Frankly, it smacks of hysteria. Surely you can think of at
> least
> a dozen other potential failure modes, all equally likely? Let's see
> some
> evidence in this case before you throw your toys out of the playpen.
>
> Dave
> --
> ++++++++++++++++++++
> David Hudson
>
> On 26/05/07, Joe Fjelstad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings folks,
>>
>> I don't know, (nor will I likely ever know) what the problem is but
>> my brand
>> new RoHS compliant laptop has the distinction of being the shortest
> lived
>> one I ever owned.
>>
>> It is a trusted brand name supplier from Japan and I have always been
>> pleased with their bullet proof reliability. My earlier version is
> still
>> working
>> very well, just a little slow. The new one was a high-end
>> small, lightweight
>> model that touted reliability in ads. On this one, however, 4 weeks
> after
>> purchase and with very little use, the CD just stopped working for no
>> apparent
>> reason.
>>
>> I would really be curious to know what went wrong but I am going to be
>> returning it to the store and will now be looking for something
> cheaper
>> and
>> hopefully non RoHS compliant. I cannot afford to pay big bucks for
>> unreliable
>> products.
>>
>> (I almost wonder if someone out there is getting back at me for
> protesting
>> lead-free too much.. ;-)
>>
>> Wishing better luck to the rest of you.
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
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