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I believe Dewey accidentally left out the word "listener" after
"electronics". But let's not hash it out here where it might acidify the
discussion...

On Mon, 21 May 2007 07:30:13 -0700, Dwight Mattix <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>70's? Pot the electronics?
>
>You sure you got that part about pot right?
>
>At 06:44 AM 5/21/2007, Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE) wrote:
>>Back in the 70s, it was a highly held belief that if you pot the
>>electronics, there was a great improvement in the clarity and depth of
>>the music.
>>Dewey
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Kirschner
>>Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:02 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic
>>
>>Heh heh...
>>
>>It's all to feed, and thereby make $ off, the terrible disease called
>>"audiophiliosis"...some friends of mine have it...spent tens of
>>thousands of
>>dollars on spectacular equipment and whiz-bang cables to listen to
>>cassette
>>tapes of Grateful Dead concerts...
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>On Sat, 19 May 2007 10:50:39 +0300, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> >No, but it's great for 78s! :-)
>> >
>> >Brian
>> >
>> >John Burke wrote:
>> >> Would it improve the sound on my 8 track??
>> >>
>> >> John...................8-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John Burke
>> >>
>> >> (408) 515 4992
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fowler
>> >> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:58 AM
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic
>> >>
>> >> They do have the amplifier built into the speakers.   I saw some
>>about 8
>> >> years ago, sounded nice, and were good and heavy.
>> >>
>> >> Then you can get into the copper crystalline signal cables, which are
>> >> just as expensive as the speaker wires.
>> >>
>> >> It's all about the money...
>> >>
>> >> david
>> >>
>> >> Hogg, Blair K. wrote:
>> >>> I wonder why someone doesn't just put the amplifier at the speaker
>> >>> itself, then run line level audio through shielded cables to each
>> >>> amplifier. Probably too much chance of em noise affecting the
>>signal.
>> >>> Could always go digital to the speaker, then turn it into audio
>>signals
>> >>> driving the voice coil. I think that is how it is done on some
>> >>> automotive systems.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:27 PM
>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic
>> >>>
>> >>> The world is full of nonsense. A friend of mine bought water cooled
>> >>> speaker cables with pure gold connectors. That cable, I assure,
>>could
>> >>> supply current to a whole block in Santa Domingo. Myself, have an
>> >>> ordinary "room cord" like the one you use for your desk lamp, this
>>one
>> >>> 15 feet long wire feeds a 800 W bass speaker. The loss in the wire
>>is so
>> >>> low, that it's neglectable, and the distortion would noone hear when
>>the
>> >>> bookshelves vibrate and you feel the thunder through the chair's
>>legs. I
>> >>> prefer to listen to the music, not to look at the music via a
>> >>> oscilloscope and a spectrum analyzer.
>> >>> Inge
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Graham Collins" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:21 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Ha!  I'm guessing that wasn't a blind test.  How would that short
>> >>>>
>> >>> piece
>> >>>
>> >>>> of wire impact audio performance?  It's connecting a household plug
>> >>>> socket, through the house wiring (of dubious quality if it's Inge's
>> >>>> house...) and the power grid...  and has a transformer on the other
>> >>>> side, presumably.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm guessing this is along the lines of the speaker wire a sales
>>guy
>> >>>> tried to sell me one time.  It was 12 gage wire (overkill, but OK),
>> >>>>
>> >>> but
>> >>>
>> >>>> he was very earnest in telling me that the wire was formed such
>>that
>> >>>>
>> >>> it
>> >>>
>> >>>> was optimized for electron flow in one particular direction...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm thinking it's only applied to the AC power cord because
>>anything
>> >>>> more complicated would not emerge functional.  Component failures
>> >>>>
>> >>> aside,
>> >>>
>> >>>> what would that do to solder joints???
>> >>>>
>> >>>> regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Graham Collins
>> >>>> Process Engineer,
>> >>>> L-3 Communications Electronic Systems Inc.
>> >>>> Halifax
>> >>>> (902) 873-2000 ext 6215
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> [log in to unmask] 05/17/07 10:37PM >>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>> There is a process in High End Audio which purports to enhance
>> >>>> equipment performance ,  called CryoTreatment.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In this process the audio gear is subjected to a ramp down to -281F
>> >>>>
>> >>> (or
>> >>>
>> >>>> cooler, but not below -320F), followed by a soak of 20 to 40 hours,
>> >>>> followed by a specific warm-up cycle back to R/T.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It is postulated  that the technical  explanation for the enormous
>> >>>> listening benefits  of the process is a re-arrangement or
>>refinement
>> >>>>
>> >>> of
>> >>>
>> >>>> the crystal structure of the conductor metals. The effect is so
>> >>>>
>> >>> powerful
>> >>>
>> >>>> that objective listeners reported  a significant improvement in
>>audio
>> >>>> quality when the AC power cord for a preamp was so treated.  I
>>doubt
>> >>>>
>> >>> my
>> >>>
>> >>>> aging ears are responsive to subtleties of this nature.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anybody care to estimate how an electronic assembly, surface-mount
>>or
>> >>>> otherwise, including  semiconductor devices, would fare thru  this
>> >>>> process?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tom Stearns
>> >>>> 3 Brander Court
>> >>>> Nashua, NH
>> >>>> 03063
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