TECHNET Archives

May 2007

TechNet@IPC.ORG

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
"Victor G. Hernandez" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]
Date:
Tue, 8 May 2007 10:51:25 -0500
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (160 lines)
Has anyone heard if IPC-D33D been released by IPC?

Victor,

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
(AZ75)
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:35 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] conductive via fill drill drawing note

IPC-D33D Plugged Via Task Group has been meeting for several years now.
There are many different ways to plug, fill or tent a via. Many are
end-use
specific or process driven. The  results of these efforts will be
included
in IPC-6012 under design and performance requirements.
You should contact Don Dupriest or John Perry for more specifics.
Dewey

-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie St.Cyr [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] conductive via fill drill drawing note


Michael,

I don't think that the IPC task group has yet released a specification
on
filled vias; the draft is in process.

We do not find any advantage for conductive fill for this application;
the
non-conductive fills will cap and plate over as well as the conductives;
be a whole lot less expensive; and, since they are not as "thick", will
fill small, high aspect ratio holes "better" (better being less
voiding).
Conductive is usually specified as less than 6:1 aspect ratio fill
capable, while non-conductives are 10 to 14:1 (depends on which brand
and
who you ask).

We only specify 60% fill in our acceptance spec without going into
particulars about the largest size of any void and so forth.
We also specify that filled vias have the same plating thickness as
non-filled vias.

You will need to call out the filled vias as a separate hole size on
your
chart and give them a separate D-code in the database so that they can
be
extracted and worked on independent of all the other non-filled vias. We
have a simple note which says "See holes in hole schedule to be filled
with a (then we have 2 check boxes) conductive (or) non-conductive
material {the designer checks off the appropriate one}. Finished pad
planarity to be within +000/-.002" on outer layers. Filled holes to be
plated consistent with the surrounding surface finish."

We do not specify any particular brand or brands (maybe we should, but
we
haven't tested them all).

I would also appreciate anyone else's feedback on our approach.

Valerie






Michael Bonek <[log in to unmask]>
Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
07/26/2004 11:59 AM
Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum."; Please respond to Michael
Bonek


        To:     [log in to unmask]
        cc:
        Subject:        [TN] conductive via fill drill drawing note


We want to fill our via's in smd land with conductive material so the
land
will be flat and no PPT will fall into the hole. I cannot find an IPC
specification that calls out a conductive via fill for a drill drawing
note. I know not to be too specific on the type of material to be used
and
that I do want it planerized and followed with subsequent plating
finish.
Is anybody aware of an IPC drill drawing specification or would like to
share how they specify this process on there drill drawing?

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text
in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at:
http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site
http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16
for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask]
or 847-509-9700 ext.5315
-----------------------------------------------------



---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text
in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at:
http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site
http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16
for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask]
or
847-509-9700 ext.5315
-----------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text
in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at:
http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site
http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional
information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700
ext.5315
-----------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

ATOM RSS1 RSS2