Mike:
Thanks for the report. I have read it in its entirety, and I see the
reference to tin-lead solder twice. However, I see nothing in the report
showing that the solder joints had been examined for chemical composition.
I have to agree that it is likely that Apple did not ship "lead free"
versions of its laptops as early as 2004, but I do not know that for a fact.
I do know that Apple, as well as most other large electronics
manufactuirers, could spell "RoHS" as early as 1993 - according to a source
within the AeA and also documents found on the AeA's website, they were
lobbying "RoHS" as early as 1993.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kirschner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LF] [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure
If it were true it would be incendiary. The Danish story, though, is
regarding notebooks purchased in 2004, before Apple could even spell
R-O-H-S. In fact, the report even mentions tin-lead solder. See
http://www.forbrug.dk/fileadmin/Filer/PDF/ENGF959-orig.pdf
Mike
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:07:29 -0700, Harvey Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>This is the stuff that will cause all those CEOs to rethink their
>expedient cave-in to the lead-in-solder ban. Now SAC alloys have doubled
>in price, still going up. An increase of 5% in manufacturing cost comes
>out of already slim or non-existant margins. That's a real encouragement
>to be non-compliant.
>Competitive advantage in the marketplace will accrue to the smart
>manufacturers who stay with 63-37 tin-lead solder. Their products will be
>cheaper and more reliable.
>
>
>
>
>--- Werner Engelmaier <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe,
>> Sorry to say their is an epidemic of of failing laptops.
>> The Danish government is going after Apple, there is a class action
>> against
>> Sony, I also heard about problems with HP and Dell...and to my
>> knowledge, it is
>> all SJ failures.
>> I do not know whether it is LF or laptops getting smaller and with more
>> functionality and running hotā?"most likley some combination. I have
>> ssen pictures of
>> people using C-clamps on laptop housings to be able to start their
>> laptopsā?"
>> putting pressure on the SJ fracture surfaces to make electrical contact.
>> It seems, DfR has never been heard of by this people.
>> However, your laptop takes the cake for customer...on the other hand, I
>> have
>> heard of DOA's right out of the box at distribution centers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
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