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Sure it will, Richard.
Inge

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] SV: [TN] Fw: [TN] Conformal Coating Voids


Good idea, Inge. I was wondering if that would work. We use a deaeration 
system when applying staking epoxies, and it removes all of the air pockets 
and bubbles from some very thick cabosil-filled epoxies, and I wondered if 
the same type of vacuum bell or chamber would evacuate the air bubbles 
immediately after application.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hfjord
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:03 PM
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Subject: [TN] SV: [TN] Fw: [TN] Conformal Coating Voids

Graham,
Someone mentioned small batch manufacturing. Once, we tried vacuum to get 
100% bubblefree coating. Took just a couple of minutes in a vacuum chamber. 
Need not real vacuum, just let the pump work some minutes, that's all. 
Initially, we used it for glues with low viscosity, but worked perfect for 
coatings as well. If the coating is thick and tacky, it won't work. Takes 
too long time.
Guess you have done that yourself too.
Inge

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Joel

Now we know you are using a UV curable, you should check the curing set-up 
with the coating manufacturer. Seems like too much energy...

Kindest regards,

Graham

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On 24 Apr 2007, at 15:12, Joel Alexander wrote:

> The application is very tight with many close keep out areas. That is
> why we are using a precision coating machine with a UV cure. The
> boards area cured seconds after that are coated so the coating does
> not spread out onto keep out areas.  This is new equipment and the
> manufacturer has resolved the bubble problem but we now have to
> determine what to do with the product that is already coated.
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> Joel Alexander
> Quality Assurance Manager
> TT APSCO, INC.
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> ----- Forwarded by Joel Alexander/perry/apscoinc on 04/24/2007
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> "Bloomquist, Ken" <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: TechNet
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> Joel,
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> We use a moisture cure urethane and if we get the coating on too thick
> and the humidity is high we get foam like bubbles. I believe the
> coating skins over too fast trapping all the volatiles underneath. We
> resolved this by doing a 40% first coat and then a 60% second coat to
> get the required thickness. We only allow about 20 - 30 minutes
> between coats.
> And like Ramon said, don't put them in an oven too soon after coating
> if you oven dry your boards.
>
> KennyB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADRI [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:15 AM
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joel Alexander
>> Sent: den 23 april 2007 21:47
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] Conformal Coating Voids
>>
>> We are using Urethane coating on an assembly that uses  63/37 solder.
>> We are using organic water soluble flux. We are Ionic testing after
>> wash and we are well within IPC cleanliness specifications. We
>> installed a selective coating machine and in our initial run of
>> product we had some small bubbles that look like foam. Our customer
>> does not like it but our stand is that it meets IPC-A-610 and
>> J-STD-001 requirements since there in no obvious voids between
>> conductors. They were worried about corrosion if a bubble was against
>> a lead. The bubbles are fully encapsulated. Does anyone think this is
> a valid concern?
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>>
>> Joel Alexander
>> Quality Assurance Manager
>> TT APSCO, INC.
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