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Paul,

We have gone through the qualification process twice and will do so again 
shortly as our equipment line up has changed.

The cost of running this qualification effort is around $8 - $10K when 
everything is said and done.

The costs include using an off site laboratory to perform the tests that 
have to be run in an environmental chamber. Even though we have this 
equipment I wanted to have the test results from an unbiased source.

We are using organic water soluble fluxes in our solder paste and at the 
wave solder machine. We only allow the use of organics at the bench top in 
selected areas. Areas where cleaning occurs immediately after work is 
performed. 

We do not use organics in component tinning areas and areas where wires 
are being soldered.

You may contact me off-line to get specifics. 

We have had customers requesting to review our qualification data and they 
have been satisfied. (Actually, I think they were surprised to find that 
we actually did this qual testing "by the book".)

Your choices may limited to 
 - losing this customer
- asking your customer to fund, maybe partially, the qualification effort
- switching to L0 or L1 fluxes
- performing the qual test and using the results as good press for your 
class 3 capability.

Many places that I've visited who claim to be class 3 compliant using 
alternative materials seem to go into a song and dance routine when I ask 
to see qualification data. In fact, some change their tune by stating that 
they use RMA fluxes only for class 3 work.

Hope this helps.




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[TN] Qualification Testing for H1 Flux






Hello all,

A recent Customer requires us to work to J-STD-001 Class 3 and 
has been examining our process.

We are currently using Type OR (organic) flux with activity level H1. 
Our Customer has pointed out that Para. 3.3 of J-STD-001D 
requires that activity level LO or L1 fluxes be used.  If we want to 
continue to use H1 flux, then "data demonstrating compatibility 
shall be available for review".

Appendix C of J-STD-001D details the tests needed for 
demonstrating compatibility.  Currently we do a ROSE test as part 
of our process.

I talked to a solder flux manufacturer and they said that our 
Customer would have to define the required tests if we want to 
keep using OR H1 flux.  They also said that various labs exist 
which could do the required tests.

However, there is a Note in Appendix C which says:

"This testing is a 'site specific' qualification process to be done at 
the manufacturer's location using production processes and 
equipment whenever possible."

This note would suggest that we can't send samples out for test, 
as the testing must be done at our facility.

It is also not clear whether the test is done on populated PCB 
Assemblies or bare boards.

Something else that worries me is that, as per para. C-5.1, a 
minimum of 10 samples are required, and as per para. C-6.2, "all 
biased sites need to have the components removed...preferably by 
cutting of leads."  Does this mean that, if PCB Assemblies are 
tested, that the components will be destroyed?  Our contract with 
our Customer is for low volume quantities, and losing 10 
Assemblies is not an attractive option.

I would appreciate any help in clarifying exactly what we need to do 
to qualify OR H1 flux.  I find Appendix C of J-STD-001 confusing.

Please not we are also considering the option of changing our flux 
to Type LO or L1 as per J-STD-001 Para 3.3

Best regards,
Paul Baine
Q.A. Manager
C-Tech Ltd.
PB/jstj

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