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Hi Anna,
 
This is obvious case of mis-handling.
 
Even application of strain relief (at flex-rigid intersection) being step  in 
the right direction, there are other locations I can see where the flex will  
tear due to mis-handling
 
1) Most imp is training personal in handling flex.....we have seen this at  a 
few customers who start using flex...training personal is the biggest  help.
 
One of our customers uses a lot of flex that bend into tight spaces (twists  
and turns invloved)....they have training for handling each flex assy.
 
2) making the flex a bit thicker also helps....e.g. use 2 mil thick kapton  
instead of 1 mil...use coverlayer on both sides instead of 1 side..  In my  
opinion, when flex is 8 mils of thicker, tendency to tear is greatly  reduced.    
We have a few customers that donot use strain-relief  because they want tight 
bend radius (strain relief gets in the way)
 
Rush
Accurate Engg Inc
_www.accueng.com_ (http://www.accueng.com) 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/22/2007 11:22:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Hi  Anna!

I've got your pictures posted. Go  to:

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/FlexBroken.JPG
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/FlexBroken2.JPG

Yep,  it sure looks like to me that you stand a real good chance of
ripping the  flex when you depanel it. I don't see a bead of epoxy for
strain relief at  any of the flex-to-rigid junctions either. That makes a
TON of difference  on how robust the assembly is to any sort of handling.

We build quite a  few rigid-flex assemblies here, and almost all of them
use something like  Eccobond 45 at the flex-to-rigid junctions...the fab
vendor does that of  course. Here's one of the assemblies that we build
that shows the Eccobond  fillets:

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/RigidFlexAssy.jpg

I  can't remember when the last time was that we damaged a flex here...it
very  rarely happens. We always keep the assemblies in their panel until
the last  moment before we ship too. 

The panel layout and break-away tab  placement needs to be well thought
out as well. For instance, I don't know  if I would have two break-away
tabs on that small piece of rigid board  where the flex broke on your
assembly...you might get by with just one on  the top edge since it's the
piece is so small. Eliminating one tab would  reduce the chance of
tearing the flex by 50%.

I think your biggest  improvement would be to fillet the flex-to-rigid
joints with Eccobond 45 or  equivalent. Yes it will increase the board
cost, but it's worth  it...

-Steve Gregory-

-----Original Message-----
From: Anna  Seredovaya [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, February 22,  2007 8:38 AM
To: Steve Gregory
Subject: FW: [TN] Disconnections in  transition zone in rigid-flex boards


Thank for you answer.
I  guess it happens during nesting separation and removing the board from
a  panel. There are some photos attachted.
Thanks'

Anna Seredovaya  

Kodak IL Ltd.   



-----Original  Message-----
From: Stadem, Richard D.  [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:08  PM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Anna Seredovaya
Cc: Steve  Gregory
Subject: RE: [TN] Disconnections in transition zone in rigid-flex  boards

We need more information. What is the assembly process where you  suspect
the opens are happening? If you have a picture of the assembly it  may be
helpful. Steve Gregory posts pictures on his website for  Technet
viewing. Send the picture to him at [log in to unmask]  

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of Anna Seredovaya
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:55  AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Disconnections in transition zone  in rigid-flex boards


Hello Techneters,

We have some boards  disconnected in transition zone: between rigid and
flex segments. This  happens during an assembly process. What is
recommended to add to  manufacture process in order to strengthen the
area. 

Thank you,  

Anna Seredovaya

Kodak IL  Ltd.



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