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I sure do not have a problem with it, Graham.
Somebody asked, and it is natural for you to provide information on a
product that could meet their needs.
I think the TechNet rules are that we don't solicit without request
(spam).
Thank you for letting us know that there is an alternative. 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Naisbitt
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:12 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Best ROSE Tester

Techies

I know this posting is outside TechNet rules but, I cannot let this go
unattended.

I bought Contaminometer from Multicore in 2002 who had previously bought
it from Brian Ellis (Protonique) in 1988 (ish)

The CM Series continues to be manufactured by Gen3 Systems Limited UK

More info on our web site www.gen3systems.com

I shall now brace myself for the hate mail....

Kindest regards,

Graham Naisbitt

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On 17 Jan 2007, at 12:36, Bill Kasprzak wrote:

> Brian,
>
> Thanks for the historical information.
>
> You mention that the model that you referred to as a successful model 
> withdrawn from the market for partially unknown reasons. Can you 
> comment on what the known reasons were?
>
> Was the instrument too expensive or too complicated? Who made the 
> Contaminometer? Are they still in business?
>
> When I was looking at equipment I only know of 3 machines. the 
> Omegameter, Ionograph and the offering from Aqueous Technologies.
>
>
>
>
> Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
> 01/17/2007 06:43 AM
> Please respond to
> TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to Brian Ellis 
> <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> To
> [log in to unmask]
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: [TN] Best ROSE Tester
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> I would remind you that the first computerised Contaminometer was 
> marketed as long ago as 1979. The most sophisticated computerised 
> instrument was the CM-5, marketed from 1988 to 1994: it could operate 
> in either "dynamic" or "static" modes, could extrapolate to asymptotic

> end-points from short tests, could determine the nature of the 
> contaminants from the shape of the dissolution curve, do advanced 
> statistical surveys on series of tests to determine changes in process

> parameters. Unfortunately, this very successful model was withdrawn 
> from the market for partially unknown reasons, along with the MCM-2 
> for components and small assemblies, and not replaced. Today's 
> CM-11/12 are barely a patch on the versatility of the earlier models.
>
> Brian
>
> Bill Kasprzak wrote:
>> Kenny,
>>
>> Rather than continue with the acronym pronunciation discussion, I'll
> tell
>> you that we recently bought  an Ionograph because it can be operated
> with
>> computer software. This way we can store data for future reference 
>> and review data if necessary. This system is much more sensitive than

>> our
> very
>> old name brand machine that printed out results on adding machine 
>> paper.
>
>> We replaced the machine simply because no support for our vintage
> machine
>> was available.
>>
>> So, far the machine seems to be working OK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Bush <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: TechNet 
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> 01/16/2007 10:02 AM
>> Please respond to
>> TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to Jeffrey 
>> Bush <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>> To
>> [log in to unmask]
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>> Re: [TN] Best ROSE Tester
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.niton.com/
>>
>> Jeffrey Bush
>> Director, Quality Assurance and Technical Support VERMONT CIRCUITS 
>> INCORPORATED
>>            76 Technology Drive - POB 1890
>>               Brattleboro, Vermont 05302
>>                 Voice - 802.257.4571 ext 37
>>                     Fax - 802.257.0011
>>                        <http://www.vtcircuits.com/>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bloomquist, Ken
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:17 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] Best ROSE Tester
>>
>> I know there are several different brands of ROSE testers out there 
>> and I would like to get some feedback on what experiences you've had 
>> with the different brands, good and bad.
>>
>> If you don't feel comfortable responding through TechNet you can 
>> reply directly to me.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> KennyB
>>
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