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Are the caps near the edge?

I would think a part at the edge of the board is
more likely to get knocked off than in the center of the PCBA.

I have also seen parts very close to the edge of the PCBA get
knocked off by the deep slots in the card racks being used .

Just some ideas.


dave




Jerry Dengler wrote:

>Hi Rick,
>
>It's very hard to get a well solder 0603 off of the board through what I
>would call normal handling.  However I have seen cases where PCB are
>allowed to fall out of an oven or wave solder machine and occasionally
>the falling board will catch a board sitting there just right to shear
>components off.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jerry Dengler
>Production Manager
>Pergamon Corporation
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Todd, Richard
>Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:23 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] SMD Capacitor Shear Strength
>
>Hi Werner, Hi John, Hi Steven -
>
>Thank you for your responses.  
>
>I regards to the question of "Why?"  We are experiencing some capacitors
>that are broken off of the PCB; not a lot, just a few.  The prevailing
>wisdom is that during physical handling of the PCB, an operator is
>inadvertently breaking the parts off the board.  This suggestion
>prompted me to think about the shear (or peel) force required to break
>the solder joint of a 0603 capacitor.  
>
>My original question was not prompted by a concern for the reliability
>of the solder joint, but simply whether or not an operator, under normal
>conditions, can exert enough force on a low-profile device to break the
>solder bond.
>
> 
>
>By the way, I failed to mention that our surface finish is HASL.
>
> 
>
>Regards,
>
> 
>
>Rick Todd
>
>Senior Engineer
>
>Process Quality Engineering
>
> 
>
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>
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>
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>  _____  
>
>From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:37 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] SMD Capacitor Shear Strength
>
> 
>
>Hi Rick, hi John,
>I am indeed on line-are not all consultants working 24/7?
>Whenever the shear/pull stength question comes up, my first reaction is
>'Why?'
>Here is my standard answer:
>No standards on shear/pull tests exist-nor should they exist. And there
>are good reasons none exist.
>First, there cannot be such thing as a true 'shear/pull test;' while you
>are of course stressing the solder joint, what you are doing to the
>solder joint in most cases is primarily peeling it-the proper reference
>would be a 'peeling' test. 
>Second, the solder joint strength, as determined by a lead peeling test,
>has no bearing on the reliability of the solder joint, provided the
>peeling test does not reveal inadequate wetting or poor metallization,
>e.g., 'Black Pad.'
>Third, in a peeling test you always need to observe the whole peel-load
>history for the whole peeling process; e.g., with a leaded solder joint
>the largest load will be at the initial portion of peeling through the
>heel fillet, with lower loads subsequently depending on whether or not
>(or to what extent) side fillets are present. 
>Fourth, the fracture surfaces of the peeled solder joints give typically
>more information than do the peel-load histories, because the ONLY
>really important finding is whether or not adequate wetting has taken
>place, i.e.
>the separation is mostly in the solder vs. being interfacial; or whether
>or not the metallization is the 'weakest' link, i.e. the separation is
>between metallization layers. Good quality solder joints frequently
>cause failure between the soldering pad and the component/PCB resin
>matrix.
>Fifth, for leaded solder joints, the reliability in actual use does to a
>large extent depend on the heel fillet and the 'bottom flat' wetting; if
>the foot length is <3W, than also on the presence of a toe fillet,
>because short feet 'rock' during thermal cycling. Side fillets are less
>important, unless you have wetting problems.
>
>Regards,
>Werner Engelmaier
>Engelmaier Associates, L.C.
>Electronic Packaging, Interconnection and Reliability Consulting
>7 Jasmine Run
>Ormond Beach, FL 32174 USA
>Phone: 386-437-8747, Cell: 386-316-5904
>E-mail: [log in to unmask], Website: www.engelmaier.com
>
>
>
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