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Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:42:46 +0200
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Munie, Gregory wrote:
> Energy efficiency is my first choice. I don't know if it should be in
> such forms as penalties for gas guzzlers or tax incentives for those
> who conserve. (I'm sure the politicians, lobbyists and lawyers can
> figure the out the best method. ;-)

How about doing a Robin Hood (taking from the rich guzzlers and giving
to the poor conservationists)? That way you kill two birds with one
stone. I can say that comfortably, as I've ordered a hybrid car with my
mini-SUV in part exchange!!! :-)
'
Brian
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>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Robin Ingenthron Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:18 AM
>  To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [LF] 2007 Legislation suggestions?
>
>
>
> There is a lot of debate, even within EPA, over the definition of
> mercury "release".  Gold, copper, and silver mining release more
> mercury into the environment than fossil fuel does, but some argue
> "airborne" is the right measure.
> http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2004/06/29/74277.php?sp1=rgj&sp2=News&sp3=Local+News&sp5=RGJ.com&sp6=news&sp7=local_news
>
>
> But I emphasize the point that the "end of pipe" only works as a
> measure if we agree which pipe to measure, and usually that depends
> upon whose backyard it's nearest to.  Landfills and recycling bins
> are right under rich nations noses, concentrating waste and obsoletes
> in a highly observed and regulated arena.  It's human nature to think
> that the simple solution is to legislate away the tail of the
> elephant when that's the part in plain sight.
>
> Consumers and producers are partners in the marketplace, and there
> are several ways to govern the marketplace.  But environmentalists
> must be wary of the conclusion that producing less of something toxic
> will have result in less toxics.  Like "lower-in-fat food",  ROHS is
> attractive in its simplicity. Environmentalists become discouraged by
> obfuscation and delay. We see climate change deniers, nicotine
> addiction deniers ....  In this LF forum I've even seen simple copper
> recycling attacked.  Boneheadism is contagious, and a retreat to the
> simple solution can have perverse consequences.
>
> Despite reactive frustration, enviros tend to accept the reality that
> there are a finite number of eco-bills which can be legislated.
> Environmentalists need to prioritize legislation based upon
> simplicity, cost of implementation, and lifecycle effectiveness.
> Ivory bans and rhino horn bans may be good models,  because they are
> not necessities and don't redirect dollars towards perverse
> replacements.
>
> So here's my poll for 2007:  What SHOULD the next eco- legislation
> be? Leadfree petrol went through relatively painlessly because it
> came from auto companies (who observed the catalytic converters were
> being messed up) and was embraced by environmentalists like an early
> Kwanza present.
>
> My vote has been to regulate the jewelry industry, to try to get
> consumers off of the "gold standard".  That's based on where new gold
> deposits are being looked for (rain forests), toxicity of production,
> and how well we could live with supply interruptions.  I've gotten
> Leo DeCaprio's interest so far.  Some have suggested PVC plastic
> resins are an anchronism (high toxic impact, simple to replace).
>
> Engineers, sometimes you get the dog to stop chewing the fine carpet
> by giving him an old shoe to chew on, or a pesky rabbit to chase.
> What should the next eco legislation be?  (Please don't suggest
> something just to trigger depreciation on newer investments by
> competitors)
>
> Robin Ingenthron
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy McGrady"
> <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December
> 22, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [LF] REACH
>
>
>> Mike:
>>
>> The vast majority of mercury put into the environment comes from
>> the burning of fossil fuels and incineration of waste.
>>
>> Please see the following report from the US EPA:
>>
>> http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/bnsdocs/mercsrce/merc_srce.html#II.
>>
>> Tim McGrady
>>
>
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