How I long for just plain old crap ~these days its all non-brominated,
RoHS compliant, new-and-improved (and more expensive) crap...


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JaMi Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] FW: Delamination pics (IS410)

Steve,

Is that delamination or just plain old crap in the stack up ? ? ?

Which I suppose would also be called delamination . . .

JaMi

----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen gregory" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] FW: Delamination pics (IS410)


> Good Morning to you Gloria!
>
>   I've got your Word doc. file with the pictures posted at:
>
>   http://www.stevezeva.homestead.com/files/dELAM.doc
>
>   Looking at the pictures, I'm assuming that each page shows images
from a
different area. It's worth noting that the delamination appears to be at
the
same layer, or am I wrong about that?
>
>   What is your fab vendor saying about this problem?
>
>   What I'm about to say isn't trying to slam all board houses, but in
all
the years that I've been working in this business, I've found that
almost
never will a board house fairly compensate a company after they've found
a
problem with a fab after it's been built. Most of the time they've said
they
will give us new boards, but won't compensate us for the labor and
materials
in the assembly, and I think that sucks.
>
>   Looking at all the pictures you've sent us, I definitely think it's
a
fab problem, not any of your assembly processes, and I would be leery of
shipping any product that is using these fabs.
>
>   But that's just my opinion...
>
>   -Steve Gregory-
>
> Gloria Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>                 Good Morning Steve,
>
>   We had a micro section completed on the delaminating area of the
boards
here that we are finding that same issue with.  Thought I would share
them
as well.  I know that I cannot send them to the forum so if you can post
them like you did the others and share them also please do.
>
>   Thanks
>
>     Gloria Brown
>   phone 906-932-5970  ext. 26
>   fax  906-932-9822
>   [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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