"And we haven't yet seen the reliability blow-ups and resulting
fall-out, yet."
Where did that come from? More solid facts, figures and logic?
The electronics industry is indeed seeing some fallout, mostly within
the factories in terms of process issues as discussed within these
forums. The issues that have been reported are wetting problems,
delamination, reduced component reliability, open vias and copper pads
dissolving away during soldering and rework with Sn100, great increases
in tombstoning and spattering, to mention just a few reported here.
I would expect more problems experienced in terms of shorter reliability
about July of 2007, if not sooner. Get ready, Werner.
And that's just what we know for sure. How many of the problems
associated with lead-free product reliability do you think will be
openly reported? Or even detected accurately, for that matter?
Is anyone going to announce to the world that they are getting more
field returns than they did before they switched? Swatch is going to be
an exception to the rule.
Somehow, I don't think that Airbus is going to announce, "Well, folks,
we tried out that there fancy new-fangled lead-free teknolchy, and by
golly it didn't work as well as we thought it would. Shoulda seen the
size of the hole in the ground."
But, then, perhaps we should report it. I can't think of a better way to
end this nonsense...........
-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Harvey Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Why EU Not Busting for RoHS Violations Yet
Brian
Penetration of lead-free solder in North America is about 50%. If you
substitute U.S., Canada, and Mexico for China you'll be closer to the
mark.
But the idea you express is probably correct. The EU will indeed have
an enforcement problem.
And we haven't yet seen the reliability blow-ups and resulting fall-out,
yet.
Go back to the drawing board, EU, and do it right. Exempt lead in
electronics!
--- Brian Epstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> It has occurred to me that enforcement bodies in the EU have probably
> done a significant amount of product testing for the six substances
> and have found that products from European companies generally comply
> and products from China generally don't. Since China exports so much,
> the Europeans might not know how to deal with these products because
> of the anticipated market disruptions, the resultant economic chaos,
> and the political fallout.
>
> Regards,
> Brian Epstein
> Sr Regulatory Compliance Engineer
> Veeco Instruments
> ph: 805-967-2700 ext 2315
> fx: 805-967-7717
> ce: 805-591-9587
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Kirschner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [LF] EU Not Busting for RoHS Violations Yet
>
> Rob Spiegel spoke, at our behest, to Steve Andrews to get a clear
> response on why we haven't seen any visible cases of non-compliance in
> the EU yet. He has more credibility on this topic than just about
> anyone, even DCA ;o)
>
> You can read his story, entitled "EU Not Busting for RoHS Violations
> Yet", at
>
> http://www.designnews.com/article/CA6387098.html
>
> So the bottom line is that they're trying to find that first case to
> go public with.
>
> Mike Kirschner
> Design Chain Associates, LLC
>
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