I think I will go home and put on Dark Side of the Moon.
Dewey
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:23 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] PbCO3
Geeze Inge!
More absolutely stunning pictures! Here they are:
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_1.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_2.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_3.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_4.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_5.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_6.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Inge_Balls_7.jpg
Beautiful! Excellent!
-Steve Gregory-
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hfjord
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] PbCO3
Hi all,
I am now confused at maximum level! I studied some CBGA samples that I got from IBM . They have been in a plastic box for a year or two and never been used. The Lead whiskers had started growing already!! So, it seems as the soldering process only accelerates the process, but does not start it. The balls are high Pb as usual for heavy CBGAs. I'm now going to check some ditto Kyocera too see if there is a difference.
If one looks close, it seems as the whiskers start growing from microscopic round pores in the Pb surface. I begin to wonder, if the phenomenon has something to do with Tin starvation, as Richard proposed, because there is nearly no Tin left in the pore areas. The whiskers do only grow where there are pores.
Any threads? Any Solid State experts?
See Steve's wall
Inge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hfjord" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] PbCO3
> Richard,
>
> thx for your interest. Bev and other specialists seem to be somewhere
> else.´ According to von Mise's equation, the stress is predominant in
> the ceramic-to-ball interface, or, in the PWB-to-ball interface, while
> the equator ought to have the least stress! So, why on earth do the
> whiskers grow around the circumpherical part of the ball. The balls
> (nearly pure
> Lead) are soldered on the ceramic platform by means of a Lead/Tin alloy.
> This alloy wets nearly all the way to the equator. Can the interface
> between the pure Lead ball and this wetting Lead/Tin alloy cause some
> stress?
>
> Any hint is welcome. Is there someone from China Lake reading this? Or
> ERA Welding Institute? Or the Welding Institute in Abington? Holden
> Happy, who worked with CBGAs earlier at IBM Fishkill ?
>
> Inge
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [TN] PbCO3
>
>
> Thanks, Reuven
> This brings me to the question of PbCO3 lead whiskers. They must be
> caused by internal stressors. If seen around the widest diameter of
> the lead balls like in Inge's case where no electro-chemical reaction
> would be the cause if the balls were actually a Pb90/Sn10 alloy, the
> whiskers are likely caused by the lateral stresses from the CTE
> mismatch between the aluminum oxide CBGA substrate and the PWB
> substrate the components are soldered to. These stresses would thus
> be concentrated near the widest part of the ball. If the balls are
> lead plating over some other metal, the lead whiskers would be from
> stresses due to the plating, and would not be focused on the equator,
> but distributed evenly over the ball.
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