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Hi Kerry: There's a list a mile long that can cause hole wall adhesion. 

Typically it is in the steps for hole clean/prep/condition/catalization
prior to electroless copper. If not done correctly the interfacial
bonding of the electroless to the hole wall can be weak and will
subsequently pull away when stressed. However that is simply a guess as
to the cause of your problem.

To try and narrow it down can you supply some additional information:
You may or may not have this information but without it whatever
responses you get will only be speculation and may lead you in the wrong
direction.

*       Are these multilayer boards, how many layers?
*       If they are multilayer what is the desmear process?
*       Are they built with electrloess copper if not what?
*       What is the electroplated copper thickness in the hole?
*       Do you have cross sections to look at, can you furnish pictures?
*       What is actually separating is it the copper (electroless or
electroplated) from the hole wall, is it separating from the entire hole
wall, just the laminate, the inner connect, etc?
*       Where in the assembly process is it happening?

	
Regards
	
Michael Barmuta
	
Staff Engineer
	
Fluke Corp.
	
Everett WA
	
425-446-6076

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kerry McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Barrel to Laminate Adhesion loss

170 Tg FR4
Kerry McMullen
Principal New Product Mfg. Engineer
LTX Corporation
50 Rosemont Road
Westwood, MA 02090-2306
(T) 781-467-5468



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Re: [TN] Barrel to Laminate Adhesion loss






Could be a few causes, at what stage are you seeing this?

1 - As Received condition?
2 - After Thermal Stress?
3 - After Assembly?

Some common causes could be;

1 - Poor drilling (resulting in excessive resin smear or damaged hole
wall)
2 - Poor resin smear removal
3 - Poor pre-electroless copper cleaning-prep
4 - Poor electroless copper plating
5 - Material type (are you using some exotic material)

Would you provide more info.

Franklin

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kerry McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:46 AM
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Subject: [TN] Barrel to Laminate Adhesion loss

Esteemed Tech-net,
What are the causes of Barrel to Laminate Adhesion loss?

TIA,
Kerry

Kerry McMullen
Principal New Product Mfg. Engineer
LTX Corporation
50 Rosemont Road
Westwood, MA 02090-2306

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