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Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:00:37 +0300
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On the whole, from a quick skim through, I find the doc is intelligible.
The grammar is atrocious in places and the consistency of terminology is
poor. A few hours work by a skilled technical editor would bring it up
to scratch, IMHO.

Brian

Gerard O'Brien wrote:
> Rudy - I would appreciate it when you decide to slam the work of the
> committees that you correctly identify the committee you are having a
> problem with. You say in the first paragraph that you received this message
> pertaining to your negative vote on the immersion tin standard but yet the
> message from Tom pertains to the 003B solderability standard.
> As co-chairman of the committee responsible for the immersion tin standard I
> would like to point out that a) you are not on the mailing list, b) we did
> not receive a negative vote from you.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Gerard O'Brien
> Co-chairman of 4-14
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R Sedlak [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Does anyone else on Technet find this situation beyond
> comprehension?
>
>     Just in case anyone still has any remaining hopes that the IPC might
> actually someday attempt to achieve something worthwhile, or perhaps attempt
> to minimize the confusion in our world, I offer this e-mail message which I
> received from the IPC in response to my negative vote on the proposed
> Immersion Tin standards.
>
>   It is important to realize, to get the full flavor of this message, that
> the standard was submitted to me for my review with two options:  1. Accept
> as written,  or 2. reject, with reasons given for rejection.   I rejected,
> because the standard was written in a way which was essentially
> unintelligible, and I could not even figure out what they were trying to
> say.
>   I received the following message in return.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>   From: Tom Newton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:46 AM
> To: Rudy Sedlak
> Subject: Your Negative Vote Submitted Against IPC J-STD-003B
>
>
>     Rudy Sedlak:
>
>   The IPC 5-23a Printed Wiring Board Solderability Specification Task Group
> is in the final stages of resolving all Technical Comments for the initial
> Ballot or potential upcoming Negative Vote Resolution Ballot on IPC
> J-STD-003B, Solderability Tests for Printed Boards document.  Sadly, this is
> admittedly a
>   very long time since the original Ballot was closed at the end of June
> 2006.
>
>   Never-the-less, I am now responding back to you on your Negative Vote
> submitted on June 26, 2006.
>
>   Please note that I have attached this response to the full string of
> E-mail correspondence we have had on this document, so that the 'history' of
> these
>   communications is recorded.
>
>   Your vote on the ballot for IPC J-STD-003B will be shown as having been
> submitted toward the Ballot on IPC J-STD-003B.  That is, IPC will show that
>   you did reply to the Ballot.
>
>   However, because the following statement:
>   "The wording is so difficult to understand and convoluted, and it is so
> verbose, it is essentially unintelligible. (And if I am offending key
> people, I apologize, but somebody has to draw a line in the sand.)"
>
>   that was provided as your sole support for your Negative Vote does not
> contain at least one specific technical detail with a suggested technical
> solution,  your negative vote will not be accepted by the 5-23a Task Group.
>
>   This response will be duly recorded with all of the actions concerning the
> IPC Ballot for the IPC J-STD-003B document.  Additionally, if IPC has
> communication with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) on this
> document, your vote will be shown as an "Unsupported Negative Vote" (one of
> ANSI's vote categories).
>
>   Accordingly, IPC thanks you for your ballot submission on IPC J-STD-003B.
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Thomas D. Newton
>   Director PCB Programs, Standards and Technology
>   IPC - Association Connecting Electronics Industries
>   3000 Lakeside Drive; Suite 309-S
>   Bannockburn, IL 60015
>   Direct: 847-597-2849              Main: 847-615-7100
>   Fax: 847-615-7105
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>
>
>
>
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