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Gosh Rudy, say what you think, don't hold back.  IPC is a very
professional organization that has many times over created an easier way
for industry to provide quality products and it is a shame that you
choose such an open forum to tongue lash this effort.  It seems to me
that either yourself or Tom Newton has made an error.  I think we are
talking about two different documents here.  Humans do error Rudy, so
why don't you pick your tongue up off the floor and try and unwind the
error before slamming a very hard working organization made up of many
many volunteers who really do care. 


Peggi J. Blakley 
Industry Liaison 
Supporting the Warfighter 
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center 
Code 6086, Building 3287 East 
300 Highway 361 
Crane, IN  47522-5001 
Ph:    812-854-2086   DSN: (482) 
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of R Sedlak
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 21:35
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Does anyone else on Technet find this situation beyond
comprehension?

    Just in case anyone still has any remaining hopes that the IPC might
actually someday attempt to achieve something worthwhile, or perhaps
attempt to minimize the confusion in our world, I offer this e-mail
message which I received from the IPC in response to my negative vote on
the proposed Immersion Tin standards.

  It is important to realize, to get the full flavor of this message,
that the standard was submitted to me for my review with two options:
1. Accept as written,  or 2. reject, with reasons given for rejection.
I rejected, because the standard was written in a way which was
essentially unintelligible, and I could not even figure out what they
were trying to say.
  I received the following message in return.


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  From: Tom Newton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:46 AM
To: Rudy Sedlak
Subject: Your Negative Vote Submitted Against IPC J-STD-003B


    Rudy Sedlak:

  The IPC 5-23a Printed Wiring Board Solderability Specification Task
Group is in the final stages of resolving all Technical Comments for the
initial Ballot or potential upcoming Negative Vote Resolution Ballot on
IPC J-STD-003B, Solderability Tests for Printed Boards document.  Sadly,
this is admittedly a
  very long time since the original Ballot was closed at the end of June
2006.

  Never-the-less, I am now responding back to you on your Negative Vote
submitted on June 26, 2006.

  Please note that I have attached this response to the full string of
E-mail correspondence we have had on this document, so that the
'history' of these
  communications is recorded.

  Your vote on the ballot for IPC J-STD-003B will be shown as having
been submitted toward the Ballot on IPC J-STD-003B.  That is, IPC will
show that
  you did reply to the Ballot.

  However, because the following statement:
  "The wording is so difficult to understand and convoluted, and it is
so verbose, it is essentially unintelligible. (And if I am offending key
people, I apologize, but somebody has to draw a line in the sand.)"

  that was provided as your sole support for your Negative Vote does not
contain at least one specific technical detail with a suggested
technical solution,  your negative vote will not be accepted by the
5-23a Task Group.

  This response will be duly recorded with all of the actions concerning
the IPC Ballot for the IPC J-STD-003B document.  Additionally, if IPC
has communication with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
on this document, your vote will be shown as an "Unsupported Negative
Vote" (one of ANSI's vote categories).

  Accordingly, IPC thanks you for your ballot submission on IPC
J-STD-003B.

  Sincerely,

  Thomas D. Newton
  Director PCB Programs, Standards and Technology
  IPC - Association Connecting Electronics Industries
  3000 Lakeside Drive; Suite 309-S
  Bannockburn, IL 60015
  Direct: 847-597-2849              Main: 847-615-7100
  Fax: 847-615-7105
  E-mail: [log in to unmask]   web: www.ipc.org




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