I do not think that airing these types of discussions back and forth on
the Technet is a good idea. That is the purpose of each working
committee. These discussions should be kept within the committee.
No standards organization is perfect, including the IPC. But the good
they have done for the industry in general far exceeds any shortcomings.
It appears that they handled this properly, and further reflects upon
them favorably.
It is always easy to criticize, and much more difficult to strive for a
solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gerard O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:34 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Does anyone else on Technet find this situation beyond
c omprehension?
Rudy - I would appreciate it when you decide to slam the work of the
committees that you correctly identify the committee you are having a
problem with. You say in the first paragraph that you received this
message pertaining to your negative vote on the immersion tin standard
but yet the message from Tom pertains to the 003B solderability
standard.
As co-chairman of the committee responsible for the immersion tin
standard I would like to point out that a) you are not on the mailing
list, b) we did not receive a negative vote from you.
Regards
Gerard O'Brien
Co-chairman of 4-14
-----Original Message-----
From: R Sedlak [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:35 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Does anyone else on Technet find this situation beyond
comprehension?
Just in case anyone still has any remaining hopes that the IPC might
actually someday attempt to achieve something worthwhile, or perhaps
attempt to minimize the confusion in our world, I offer this e-mail
message which I received from the IPC in response to my negative vote on
the proposed Immersion Tin standards.
It is important to realize, to get the full flavor of this message,
that the standard was submitted to me for my review with two options:
1. Accept
as written, or 2. reject, with reasons given for rejection. I
rejected,
because the standard was written in a way which was essentially
unintelligible, and I could not even figure out what they were trying to
say.
I received the following message in return.
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From: Tom Newton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:46 AM
To: Rudy Sedlak
Subject: Your Negative Vote Submitted Against IPC J-STD-003B
Rudy Sedlak:
The IPC 5-23a Printed Wiring Board Solderability Specification Task
Group is in the final stages of resolving all Technical Comments for the
initial Ballot or potential upcoming Negative Vote Resolution Ballot on
IPC J-STD-003B, Solderability Tests for Printed Boards document. Sadly,
this is admittedly a
very long time since the original Ballot was closed at the end of June
2006.
Never-the-less, I am now responding back to you on your Negative Vote
submitted on June 26, 2006.
Please note that I have attached this response to the full string of
E-mail correspondence we have had on this document, so that the
'history' of these
communications is recorded.
Your vote on the ballot for IPC J-STD-003B will be shown as having
been submitted toward the Ballot on IPC J-STD-003B. That is, IPC will
show that
you did reply to the Ballot.
However, because the following statement:
"The wording is so difficult to understand and convoluted, and it is
so verbose, it is essentially unintelligible. (And if I am offending key
people, I apologize, but somebody has to draw a line in the sand.)"
that was provided as your sole support for your Negative Vote does not
contain at least one specific technical detail with a suggested
technical solution, your negative vote will not be accepted by the
5-23a Task Group.
This response will be duly recorded with all of the actions concerning
the IPC Ballot for the IPC J-STD-003B document. Additionally, if IPC
has communication with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
on this document, your vote will be shown as an "Unsupported Negative
Vote" (one of ANSI's vote categories).
Accordingly, IPC thanks you for your ballot submission on IPC
J-STD-003B.
Sincerely,
Thomas D. Newton
Director PCB Programs, Standards and Technology
IPC - Association Connecting Electronics Industries
3000 Lakeside Drive; Suite 309-S
Bannockburn, IL 60015
Direct: 847-597-2849 Main: 847-615-7100
Fax: 847-615-7105
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