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Hi Rudy! As the chairman of the JSTD-003 committee I can give you a

response to the IPC reply you received.  IPC has a negative vote procedure

in which each negative vote is reviewed, comments dispositioned in terms of

technical and editorial content, and a response is then sent to the

individual submitting the negative vote. Your negative vote was processed

through this procedure. No technical content was submitted and no editorial

suggested revision verbiage was provided for the committee to review. The

IPC reply you received was intended to inform you that your input was

received, reviewed, and not ignored. All comments received as part of a

specification ballot are considered important and are fully documented. If

you feel that segments of a specification require revision, then I

encourage you to provide specific proposed suggestions that the committee

can review. The editorial comment you submitted to the specification ballot

does not provide a proposed suggestion(s) that the committee could review

and consider for inclusion. As the committee chairman, I do appreciate your

participation in the specification ballot process.



Dave Hillman

JSTD-003 Chairman

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    Just in case anyone still has any remaining hopes that the IPC might

actually someday attempt to achieve something worthwhile, or perhaps

attempt to minimize the confusion in our world, I offer this e-mail message

which I received from the IPC in response to my negative vote on the

proposed Immersion Tin standards.



  It is important to realize, to get the full flavor of this message, that

the standard was submitted to me for my review with two options:  1. Accept

as written,  or 2. reject, with reasons given for rejection.   I rejected,

because the standard was written in a way which was essentially

unintelligible, and I could not even figure out what they were trying to

say.

  I received the following message in return.





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  From: Tom Newton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:46 AM

To: Rudy Sedlak

Subject: Your Negative Vote Submitted Against IPC J-STD-003B





    Rudy Sedlak:



  The IPC 5-23a Printed Wiring Board Solderability Specification Task Group

is in the final stages of resolving all Technical Comments for the initial

Ballot or potential upcoming Negative Vote Resolution Ballot on IPC

J-STD-003B, Solderability Tests for Printed Boards document.  Sadly, this

is admittedly a

  very long time since the original Ballot was closed at the end of June

2006.



  Never-the-less, I am now responding back to you on your Negative Vote

submitted on June 26, 2006.



  Please note that I have attached this response to the full string of

E-mail correspondence we have had on this document, so that the ‘history’

of these

  communications is recorded.



  Your vote on the ballot for IPC J-STD-003B will be shown as having been

submitted toward the Ballot on IPC J-STD-003B.  That is, IPC will show that

  you did reply to the Ballot.



  However, because the following statement:

  “The wording is so difficult to understand and convoluted, and it is so

verbose, it is essentially unintelligible. (And if I am offending key

people, I apologize, but somebody has to draw a line in the sand.)”



  that was provided as your sole support for your Negative Vote does not

contain at least one specific technical detail with a suggested technical

solution,  your negative vote will not be accepted by the 5-23a Task Group.



  This response will be duly recorded with all of the actions concerning

the IPC Ballot for the IPC J-STD-003B document.  Additionally, if IPC has

communication with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) on this

document, your vote will be shown as an “Unsupported Negative Vote” (one of

ANSI’s vote categories).



  Accordingly, IPC thanks you for your ballot submission on IPC J-STD-003B.



  Sincerely,



  Thomas D. Newton

  Director PCB Programs, Standards and Technology

  IPC - Association Connecting Electronics Industries

  3000 Lakeside Drive; Suite 309-S

  Bannockburn, IL 60015

  Direct: 847-597-2849              Main: 847-615-7100

  Fax: 847-615-7105

  E-mail: [log in to unmask]   web: www.ipc.org









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