One can find oneself in a situation where they are not able to comprehend
the original message well enough to translate it into something more
understandable for others. In such a situation, what can you do but state
that the message is imcomprehensible, at least to you, and insist on
further clarification before approving?
-Chris
Franklin D Asbell
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Sent by: TechNet cc:
<[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [TN] Does anyone else on Technet
find this situation beyond c
08/30/2006 09:43 AM omprehension?
Please respond to TechNet
E-Mail Forum; Please
respond to Franklin D
Asbell
Rudy,
Jeesh, I'm thinking you made a point to the entire TechNet group, just not
than the one you intended...
Might I suggest, that in future submissions for ballot that you rewrite key
areas you consider verbose or unintelligible into a format you believe is
more effective, and offer that as an attachment to your ballot. Perhaps
that
would be more effective than saying NO - because I just don't like it!!!
Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: R Sedlak [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:35 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Does anyone else on Technet find this situation beyond
comprehension?
Just in case anyone still has any remaining hopes that the IPC might
actually someday attempt to achieve something worthwhile, or perhaps
attempt
to minimize the confusion in our world, I offer this e-mail message which I
received from the IPC in response to my negative vote on the proposed
Immersion Tin standards.
It is important to realize, to get the full flavor of this message, that
the standard was submitted to me for my review with two options: 1. Accept
as written, or 2. reject, with reasons given for rejection. I rejected,
because the standard was written in a way which was essentially
unintelligible, and I could not even figure out what they were trying to
say.
I received the following message in return.
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From: Tom Newton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:46 AM
To: Rudy Sedlak
Subject: Your Negative Vote Submitted Against IPC J-STD-003B
Rudy Sedlak:
The IPC 5-23a Printed Wiring Board Solderability Specification Task Group
is in the final stages of resolving all Technical Comments for the initial
Ballot or potential upcoming Negative Vote Resolution Ballot on IPC
J-STD-003B, Solderability Tests for Printed Boards document. Sadly, this
is
admittedly a
very long time since the original Ballot was closed at the end of June
2006.
Never-the-less, I am now responding back to you on your Negative Vote
submitted on June 26, 2006.
Please note that I have attached this response to the full string of
E-mail correspondence we have had on this document, so that the 'history'
of
these
communications is recorded.
Your vote on the ballot for IPC J-STD-003B will be shown as having been
submitted toward the Ballot on IPC J-STD-003B. That is, IPC will show that
you did reply to the Ballot.
However, because the following statement:
"The wording is so difficult to understand and convoluted, and it is so
verbose, it is essentially unintelligible. (And if I am offending key
people, I apologize, but somebody has to draw a line in the sand.)"
that was provided as your sole support for your Negative Vote does not
contain at least one specific technical detail with a suggested technical
solution, your negative vote will not be accepted by the 5-23a Task Group.
This response will be duly recorded with all of the actions concerning
the
IPC Ballot for the IPC J-STD-003B document. Additionally, if IPC has
communication with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) on this
document, your vote will be shown as an "Unsupported Negative Vote" (one of
ANSI's vote categories).
Accordingly, IPC thanks you for your ballot submission on IPC J-STD-003B.
Sincerely,
Thomas D. Newton
Director PCB Programs, Standards and Technology
IPC - Association Connecting Electronics Industries
3000 Lakeside Drive; Suite 309-S
Bannockburn, IL 60015
Direct: 847-597-2849 Main: 847-615-7100
Fax: 847-615-7105
E-mail: [log in to unmask] web: www.ipc.org
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