Joe,

Not a nice story of lead-free is it? Billions of dollars spent to
transition and contributions of many thousands of hours by very talented
engineers and scientists to get a product that is not as good as its
predecessors and is arguably worse for the environment. Sounds like a
Twilight Zone episode. Rod Sterling would have loved this one. 


Best regards, 

Andy Kostic 

Thought without action is as useless as action without thought.

Andrew D. Kostic, Ph. D. 
Engineering Fellow 
Northrop Grumman 
Electronic Systems 
Product Integrity Engineering 
(410) 765 6594 


-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:36 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Stealth RoHS Products in the US

Thanks Andy,

I have a cell phone charger from a major cell phone supplier who
proclaims to have made the full transition to lead-free and it had
failed within 6 months of purchase. I don't know if the cause is related
to the lead-free solder or not but it has the manufacture's brand name
on it so I must assume that it is  a lead-free product.

I may be overly cynical but lead-free seems a sure way to "nickel and
dime"
the consumer and ultimately assure product obsolescence. As you  infer,
however, the purveyors need to get the time to failure to  occur just
inside the consumers "threshold of pain".

I heard some years ago, what I consider a well thought through
definition of reliability.

"Reliability is best measured, not by the return of the product, but by
the return of the customer".

It is possible that lead-free may prove a dance on a razor's  edge
relative to maintaining customer loyalty.

"Once bitten, twice shy"

Thanks again,
Joe

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV
1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following
text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree To
temporarily stop/(start) delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send:
SET Leadfree NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at:
http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site
http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional
information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100
ext.2815
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree
To temporarily stop/(start) delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: SET Leadfree NOMAIL/(MAIL)
Search previous postings at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------