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Nic Bowker <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:29:02 +0100
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If the end user has the product in their hands before 1st July then who cares?!?! It's been on the market before 1st July and then it's off again and if the end user wants to shove it on Ebay afterwards then that's fine too as far as I understood it all.

Isn't it? 

As long as everything that isn't compliant is made (and subjected to contract/transferred) before 1st July then everyone is fine/happy.

Aren't they?


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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: 01 June 2006 18:43
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Put On The Market Clarification Saga


Yes BUT,

If the end user already owns the product before July 1?...............8-)

Another can of worms?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Kallin, Dan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:58 AM
To: (Leadfree Electronics Assembly Forum); John Burke
Subject: RE: [LF] Put On The Market Clarification Saga

I do not believe money needs to change hands. In the guidance, they
describe free samples as put on the market.


Dan Kallin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:14 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Put On The Market Clarification Saga

The answer is - it depends......

I believe if the goods are wholly owned by the end user and paid for
before
1 July, then they cannot said to ever be "on the market" since they are
never actually for sale.

On the other hand if the end user then sold them that would be an
offence.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Put On The Market Clarification Saga

Hi Trevor, Nic, Chris, IPC LF Listservers,

I can't follow who said what and the real situation you are dealing
with.

<==I believe you wrote this as the NWML reply to your query.
<Our reply is:
EEE products are 'placed on the EU market' as soon as they leave the
point
of manufacture in the EU or clear customs in the EU, as long as no
further
work is performed on them of any sort and if before 1 July 2006 they do
not
need to comply with RoHS regulations and can be sold on at any time
after
this date.">>>


This seems reasonable except being in the US the way the ending of this
sentence is structured seems confusing.
"and if before 1 July 2006 they do not need to comply with RoHS
regulations
and can be sold on at any time after this date"

Just because you have a long term contract to supply finished widgets
and
even receive payments far in advance, so that your customer owns your
product in the manufacturing stage doesn't mean you can still keep
shipping
SnPb products. July1 or 01July is the end date for funny stuff to be
done.

It seems like you/yours are going to make your/your customer's case a
place
for attorneys, or barristers to make some money off your errors.


Yours in Engineeing, Dave
YiEngr, MA/NY DDave

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