Of course one could and should separate tensile and shear properties.  But, we as a standard body must think about the cost of testing and the return on that investment.  Essentially, the "bond strength" test (which is supposed to measure tensile only) is too expensive to be done properly.  Too many uncertainties and non-linearity (probably caused by not truly being able to separate tensile and shear).  That's why Susan called the method "Provisional".  And that's why Russ only does it as a "process indicator", or whatever you'd like to call it.
The historical "rework/unsupported hole bond strength" testing is pretty good methodology because it controls many of the uncertainties through coaxial geometry.  This test vehicle could be mimicked on a new board designs, but I haven't seen it done.  Of course, it also incorporates the rework heat cycles.

I would conjecture that:
1) there are people out there that understand this much better than I, and
2) they would say that while peel strength is a combination of tensile and shear, it is controlled by defining the bend radius (thickness of foil and no surface finish)  
3) the peel methodology is capable of discriminating "good" foil laminating from "bad", pass/fail requirements are in place, and testing is already required.

IMO, to add bond strength testing as a spec. req. one would need to show that peel methodology is not capable of discriminating "good" foil laminating from "bad".

Chris

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Franklin

At the 2005 Expo I presented a paper that quantified both of these
measurements in terms of the first principals tensile and shear stresses at
the point of rupture. The peel test produces a simultaneous and essentially
uncontrolled combination of both tensile and shear stresses. Ideally you
would prefer only one of these stress to be present an the extent
measurable. The thermal stress test produces only a shear stress between
layers of materials. The drawback here is that the temperature is dynamic
and consequently the stress changes until the entire package reaches thermal
equilibrium. Of the two I prefer the thermal test, but the drawbacks can be
signoficant.

Best regards

Lee

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