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        Northrop Grumman is doing something about it. It is educating
internally what John Burke is exposing to the world. It is doing
personal presentations, web meetings and E-mails. It is using own
experts and invitees from other corporations.
        Regards,
        Ramon

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of stephen gregory
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US
postal stamps

I'd like to see some of the large defense companies (i.e; Northrop
Grumman, Lockheed, BAE, etc.) belly-up to the bar and speak out about
this issue.

  I know most of the stuff they produce is exempt, and it's exempt
because of the reliability issues that they should be vocal about.

  I know for a fact that this whole lead-free frenzy has affected what
they produce quite a bit even though what they build is exempt...trying
to find components without a tin or lead free finish these days is like
trying to find a needle in a haystack sometimes.

  -Steve Gregory-

Leo Higgins <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  .......that's it. We need a celebrity to endorse this
issue...........maybe George Cooney, Bono, or Angeline Jolie would take
it up. This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but any increase visibility to the
general public would be a serious help. I tried to explain all the
issues and concerns to my 82 year old father and he got the picture. But
this one-at-a-time messaging will not have an impact. If influential
organizations developed an understanding and started pushing (like AARP,
IEEE, Consumer Reports, etc.) maybe we could achieve a real multiplier
effect and have people expressing concerns to unknowing government
representatives.

Best regards,
Leo

Leo M. Higgins III, Ph.D.
Vice President, Technical Operations
ASAT, Inc.
3755 Capital of Texas Highway, Suite 100 Austin, Texas 78704

office phone 512-383-4593
mobile 512-423-2002
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www.asat.com



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Leo Higgins
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US
postal stamps


Hello all,
I think what John has done is really quite remarkable. In considerably
less than a month he has captured the attention of the electronics
manufacturing world, and beyond. I do not even know how to set up a web
site. Thank you, John.
In the end, the only truly objective rationale for all of this brouhaha
is that we all want to make sure that we continue to manufacture very
reliable electronic products and simultaneously watch out for our
environment. That, I think, is the beauty of John's work, and all of the
TechNet contributors. Despite all of the hard work and money spent by
electronics manufacturers of every ilk, if we "had to" go back to BOMs
and processes for electronics manufacturing with SnPb solder, I suspect
few of us would choose to stay with the PbFree 'solutions', or
half-baked solutions. It really has made it difficult for all and the
very real threat of decreased reliability and a more negative impact on
the environment really hurts, both professionally and ethically.
I do not want to be associated in any way with the failure of the first
electronic device that causes the loss of a human life simply because of
this inappropriate surge to be lead free. It may have once been
politically correct, but in this decade this is no longer acceptable.
Thank you, John, and all of TechNet. It is really quite exciting to see
the ground-swell associated with this Push Back movement.
Neil Young has a new album. I have only heard one song, a cry for a
leader, and it reminds me of his "Ohio" song, the lament for Kent State.
It is quite moving, but then again I am a child of the 60's. Maybe we
should contact him.........

Best regards,
Leo

Leo M. Higgins III, Ph.D.
Vice President, Technical Operations
ASAT, Inc.
3755 Capital of Texas Highway, Suite 100 Austin, Texas 78704

office phone 512-383-4593
mobile 512-423-2002
[log in to unmask]
www.asat.com



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:57 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US
postal stamps


Did you see what I put up on the RoHSUSA web site front page banner? if
you let it run through all of the updates it reads:

"......be heard, stand up and be counted, support what you believe in,
and never let the thought "what can I do alone" even enter your
head........."


John................

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:40 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US
postal stamps

Hi John,

I second Ahne's comments.

Their are still too many folks out there who have resigned themselves to
say: "The train has left the station". However, if the train is headed
for a cliff, we can still apply the brakes.

Keep up the good work.

Very best,
Joe

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