TECHNET Archives

May 2006

TechNet@IPC.ORG

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
stephen gregory <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, stephen gregory <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Tue, 16 May 2006 18:25:20 -0700
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (187 lines)
I'd like to see some of the large defense companies (i.e; Northrop Grumman, Lockheed, BAE, etc.) belly-up to the bar and speak out about this issue.

  I know most of the stuff they produce is exempt, and it's exempt because of the reliability issues that they should be vocal about.

  I know for a fact that this whole lead-free frenzy has affected what they produce quite a bit even though what they build is exempt...trying to find components without a tin or lead free finish these days is like trying to find a needle in a haystack sometimes.

  -Steve Gregory-

Leo Higgins <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  .......that's it. We need a celebrity to endorse this issue...........maybe
George Cooney, Bono, or Angeline Jolie would take it up. This is a bit
tongue-in-cheek, but any increase visibility to the general public would be
a serious help. I tried to explain all the issues and concerns to my 82
year old father and he got the picture. But this one-at-a-time messaging
will not have an impact. If influential organizations developed an
understanding and started pushing (like AARP, IEEE, Consumer Reports, etc.)
maybe we could achieve a real multiplier effect and have people expressing
concerns to unknowing government representatives.

Best regards,
Leo

Leo M. Higgins III, Ph.D.
Vice President, Technical Operations
ASAT, Inc.
3755 Capital of Texas Highway, Suite 100
Austin, Texas 78704

office phone 512-383-4593
mobile 512-423-2002
[log in to unmask]
www.asat.com



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Leo Higgins
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US
postal stamps


Hello all,
I think what John has done is really quite remarkable. In considerably
less than a month he has captured the attention of the electronics
manufacturing world, and beyond. I do not even know how to set up a web
site. Thank you, John.
In the end, the only truly objective rationale for all of this brouhaha
is that we all want to make sure that we continue to manufacture very
reliable electronic products and simultaneously watch out for our
environment. That, I think, is the beauty of John's work, and all of the
TechNet contributors. Despite all of the hard work and money spent by
electronics manufacturers of every ilk, if we "had to" go back to BOMs and
processes for electronics manufacturing with SnPb solder, I suspect few of
us would choose to stay with the PbFree 'solutions', or half-baked
solutions. It really has made it difficult for all and the very real threat
of decreased reliability and a more negative impact on the environment
really hurts, both professionally and ethically.
I do not want to be associated in any way with the failure of the first
electronic device that causes the loss of a human life simply because of
this inappropriate surge to be lead free. It may have once been politically
correct, but in this decade this is no longer acceptable.
Thank you, John, and all of TechNet. It is really quite exciting to
see the ground-swell associated with this Push Back movement.
Neil Young has a new album. I have only heard one song, a cry for a
leader, and it reminds me of his "Ohio" song, the lament for Kent State. It
is quite moving, but then again I am a child of the 60's. Maybe we should
contact him.........

Best regards,
Leo

Leo M. Higgins III, Ph.D.
Vice President, Technical Operations
ASAT, Inc.
3755 Capital of Texas Highway, Suite 100
Austin, Texas 78704

office phone 512-383-4593
mobile 512-423-2002
[log in to unmask]
www.asat.com



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:57 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US
postal stamps


Did you see what I put up on the RoHSUSA web site front page banner? if you
let it run through all of the updates it reads:

"......be heard, stand up and be counted, support what you believe in, and
never let the thought "what can I do alone" even enter your head........."


John................

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:40 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Latest updates on RoHS round 5 exemptions and US postal
stamps

Hi John,

I second Ahne's comments.

Their are still too many folks out there who have resigned themselves to
say: "The train has left the station". However, if the train is headed for
a
cliff, we can still apply the brakes.

Keep up the good work.

Very best,
Joe

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16
for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or
847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16
for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or
847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to
[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16
for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or
847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------


---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

ATOM RSS1 RSS2