Hi Dale:
There is nothing to loose and a lot to gain by trying
what John proposes. Documentation to back the reason for an exemption
can be from America only or America and other countries as well. Can you
imagine the benefits from stopping this ROHS? I am in.
Regards,
Ramon
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dale Ritzen
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Get the Lead Out
Unfortunately John,
Documentation from and by the U.S. Government is not given much weight
in European matters. I think it comes from too many years of living in
the shadow of the U.S. You would be better served if some governmental
agency in one of the E.U. member countries published something of this
nature that could be used to push this agenda. A university professor,
business or government publication originating in the E.U. would help.
How about it folks... Can some of our European cousins come up with
documented evidence of this kind that could lend some credibility in
European circles to the "push back" effort? If so, combine that with the
EPA document and you might gain some weight in your arguments to "the
Commission"...
Not trying to be a spoil sport, but using U.S. documentation in the
European arena is a losing battle... for many reasons.
Dale Ritzen
Quality Manager
Austin Manufacturing Services
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Get the Lead Out
Thanks Ahne.............Game ON.................
I for one would love to take a co-operative of industry through the
exemption application process using the EPA report as ammunition to
state that lead free solder has a negative environmental impact.
Anyone else up for the challenge?
If there is anyone on here from Microsoft, I would think they might
welcome the opportunity to "Pushback" on some European
matters..............8-)
Ping me through the site or on reply e-mail, anyone who is interested. I
will update the site pages to include this data this weekend.
http://www.rohsusa.com/
John Burke
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ahne Oosterhof
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Get the Lead Out
>From the European Union website:
http://www.europarl.eu.int/registre/recherche/NoticeDetaillee.cfm?docid=
1608
39&doclang=EN
E-3488/05EN
Answer given by Mr Dimas
on behalf of the Commission
(11.11.2005)
The objective of the measures identified in the Honourable Member's
question is to substitute harmful substances for humans and the
environment with suitable replacements where these exist.
The Commission is aware that the substitution of lead in electrical and
electronic equipment may have led companies to invest in new
technologies with greater energy use. However, if companies can prove
that the elimination or substitution of the banned substances via design
changes or the use of alternative materials and components causes
negative environmental, health and or consumer safety impacts, and that
these outweigh the environmental benefits of ceasing to use the banned
substances, an exemption can be granted. So far, only one company has
asked for an exemption on these grounds. All the other exemption
requests are based on either the lack of suitable substitutes or for
cost reasons, which cannot be considered under the RoHS Directive .
===========
This seems to say that if the alternative to lead is much more costly,
too bad.
BUT: if the alternative can be shown to be detrimental to the
environment and/or consumer safety, it is possible to get an exemption.
Looks like based on what I read one can prove both sets of problems. So
how come only one company has gone for that kind of exemption? How about
getting an exemption for the US electronic assembly industry?
(You have done a great job of getting a lot of information together in a
single place.)
Have fun,
Ahne.
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Friday, 28 April, 2006 11:10
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Get the Lead Out
Wow I guess I really did say that huh.......................
John
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Pierce
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:46 AM
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Subject: [TN] NTC Get the Lead Out
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/11798
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