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Amen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Mikell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [TN] Swage Tooling Identification


Richard said:

"If I understand correctly, you can live with a hole inside the shank end of
the anvil, correct? If so, is there a way to thread a piece of wire through
a very small hole and use the wire to attach an identification tag without
having the tag interfere with the operation?"

Richard;
          If only it were so. That gets to the fundamental problem with many
tools, these in particular.
There is no way to attach a tag, and if there were, it would go missing just
before the ISO audit. The steel on the older tools is very hard. It is
difficult to mark. The tool slips into the receptacle on the press, bottoms
out, and is held with a setscrew. About half of the tool is buried in the
press; the tag would dangle on the board under work. (watch out, here come
the ESD police!!)

I like the tool case with the cut foam. But I still have to uniquely
identify the tool at all times. These tools last approximately a hundred
years or so, or at least some of the ones I've inherited over the years seem
that old.

In an ISO-9k environment, I always had to prove the tool was correct, even
if it was in a marked container. Often, we could never find any original
purchase documentation to prove we had the "right" tool.
Stuff happens over time, especially in a contract shop.

What you say.... Control of tools through a tool crib..........  Love it,
been there, done that!!!!
What's that you say... tool crib attendant was laid off, and now everybody
has access to the crib. Damn the bad luck... curses, foiled again...

Steve Gregory lives in the contract-manufacturing world...  Think CHEAP,
small contract houses simply don't have the profit margin an OEM has in
order to be fancy... and the OEMs are feeling that pressure more often
Ideas must be based on what's at hand, and costs next to nothing, or less.
Ideas must be effective, easy to maintain, easy to communicate at the sixth
grade education level...
Idea must be capable of withstanding unimaginable abuse, employees, etc...

Please remember the following (from  25 years experience in shops from 20
people to 500 people):
The box the tool came in will be gone in less than a year.
Tags will be removed... "They got in the way, etc..."
New boxes cost money
Excel requires a computer
Steel die stamp sets, fine if you already have them
I have access to a drill, a file, and several colors of ink.
Alway remember, don't buy anything you can make instead because: "People are
free, because they were going to be here anyway, I don't have to spend
anything extra."  operating philosophy at Slaves Chained Inside aka So Cheap
Incorporated.

Don't like colors?, do narrow and wide grooves with black ink. Use Morse
code, or UPC codes.
Again SteveG, good luck.....
And don't pay for it out of your pocket, ... again

Steve Mikell
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