The previous email shouldn't have gone to the forum because I can't post my company's flowdown to the general public. The following link goes to the UTC website (Pratt & Whitney, Pratt & Whitney, Canada, & Hamilton Sunstrand) for their public domain supplier flowdown. (http://suppliers.utc.com/sqd/ASQR/pdf_files/asqr01.pdf)
You will note that the base specification is AS-9100 with company specific additions - especially in the process proving areas. This is a typical approach taken by many of my company's customers. We are a tier 1 supplier to engine manufacturers and have to address customer specific requirements in our quality system. We are also required to flow down customer requirements to our supply base. As you can imagine, multiple customers, each with their own special additions to the base requirement, makes compliance interesting.
The easiest document to use to begin the conversion process is AS-9100 because it identifies the areas where AS goes beyond ISO. I recommend creating a compliance matrix by listing each requirement specific to AS-9100 (paragraph number and text) in a column and listing the corresponding area of your quality system that addresses the requirement next to the AS requirement. The size of the gap between the AS standard and your current QMS will depend on your previous experience with aircraft requirements and how proactive your QMS approach has been.
The following link will take you to one company's public domain quality manual that addresses the current AS-9100 requirements. (http://www.malcams.com/qc/QualityManual-9000-2000.pdf). Their high level approach is representative of many other AS-9100 quality manuals.
I'm not a quality systems consultant (my current title is Supplier Quality Engineer), but my job requires me to address supplier quality compliace issues. I will try to answer any specific questions that you might have. Sorry about the delay in replying, but I was traveling last week.
Don Vischulis
-----Original Message-----
>From: Suzanne Foulkes <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Mar 2, 2006 5:56 AM
>To: Donald Vischulis <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: [TN] ISO 9001 to AS9100 transition
>
>Could you post your flowdown for others interested in viewing. We are
>currently going through some audits with companys that put the product
>we would build into Aerospace and I've been told we should consider as
>certification. I would like to aim for this but feel your chart would be
>of great assistance.
>Sue Foulkes
>AESCO Mfg.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Vischulis
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:14 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] ISO 9001 to AS9100 transition
>
>
>Franklin
>
>You may find the transition from ISO 9000:2000 to AS9100 Rev A
>challenging. It's comparable to going from IPC-610 Class 2 to Class 3.
>I'm attaching a copy of my company's quality flowdown to suppliers for
>your reference. You can interpret the specification as stated in the
>beginning where the items outside the box are ISO requirements, the
>requirements inside the box are AS requirements, and the items in
>italics text are my company specific requirements. I am on the road
>and don't have a clean copy of the AS spec with me. The bottom line is
>that AS has specific requirements on top of the ISO standard. One can
>not determine the difficulty of switching from ISO to AS without
>understanding the established quality system and culture at a specific
>company. The best way to approach this question is to obtain a copy of
>AS-9100 and create a compliance matrix. In other words, a two column
>list of AS-9100 requirements (item by item) and the corresponding list
>of how your company's quality system meets those requirements. You've
>been through ISO surveillance requirements in the past and understand
>how the auditors interpret the standard. Apply the same auditing
>philosophy the the AS requirements and you'll determine what is required
>to comply.
>
>Let me know if I can provide further assistance. I normally don't like
>to be this evasive, but this is a case of trying to provide advice
>without having information.
>
>I'm on the road as I send this email. Let me know if there's a problem
>with the attachment and if you would like me to try sending it again.
>
>Don Vischulis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Franklin D Asbell <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Mar 1, 2006 11:22 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [TN] ISO 9001 to AS9100 transition
>>
>>I'm interested to know how many companies have transitioned to AS9100
>>from ISO 9001.
>>
>>
>>
>>Is there a tremendous push from OEM's for this?
>>
>>
>>
>>In reviewing both documents what I see are heritage elements from ISO
>>9002:1994 and QS 9000:1994 combined with ISO 9001:2000. How significant
>
>>were the changes to quality systems in making the transition to AS9100?
>>
>>
>>
>>Just doing some research, any input would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>Franklin
>>
>>
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