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Franklin D Asbell <[log in to unmask]>
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Dewey,

Good information, thanks.

Currently, our system is documented to comply with ISO 9001:2000,
MIL-PRF-55110, and I am completing the documents for MIL-PRF-31032
compliance.

I reviewed what is in-place against the AS9100 document and the only area I
see us not documenting fully are control charts (not to be confused with
process control charts), key characteristics; however, these have not been
part of any purchase orders. We have the one customer requiring this (AS9100
certification) of us by the end of 2006 and I am weighing the following;

1. Do nothing (in regards to AS9100 certification) and lose this customer
2. Add on AS9100 to our current ISO 9001:2000
3. Drop ISO 9001:2000 and replace with AS9100
4. Drop ISO 9001:2000 and replace it with DSCC ISO 9001:2000 Certificate (as
they are not a registrar they cannot 'certify' the system, but they can
provide a nice certificate suitable for framing)
5. Drop all industry certifications and rely solely on our MIL-PRF-31032
qualification.

There are many pros and cons to each scenario, just wanting to hear from the
buyers of boards to gain their perspective.

Franklin

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey (AZ75)
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:22 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] ISO 9001 to AS9100 transition

Franklin,
We're Aerospace so we have been AS9100 from the start. We are also ISO
9001, 9002. One answer to your question is somewhere in between the good
responses you have already gotten. The second, as I dig into my pocket
to contribute to the Doug Pauls Scholarship Fund, is it depends. It
depends on how many processes you have either documented, certified  or
qualified. It depends on how many Key or Diamond Characteristics have
been flowed down to you contractually by your customer. It depends on
what level you are trying to achieve or maintain in a Capability
Maturity Model. All of these will require you to capture, archive and
produce on demand artifacts that demonstrate compliance. This then
becomes your audit path to verification and acceptance.
Simple terms: Document what you do; follow the documented processes;
demonstrate knowledge of the process; demonstrate awareness of the
verification requirements and live happily ever after, or at least until
the next audit.
Dewey

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Franklin D Asbell
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] ISO 9001 to AS9100 transition

I'm interested to know how many companies have transitioned to AS9100
from ISO 9001.



Is there a tremendous push from OEM's for this?



In reviewing both documents what I see are heritage elements from ISO
9002:1994 and QS 9000:1994 combined with ISO 9001:2000. How significant
were the changes to quality systems in making the transition to AS9100?



Just doing some research, any input would be appreciated.



Franklin


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