Hi Richard! Rockwell Collins has been using immersion tin on avionics
applications (IPC Class 3) for over 5 years now with no incidences of a tin
whisker. Immersion tin chemistries are not the same as the matte tin
chemistries that are being used for component finishes. HOWEVER, all
immersion tin pwb finishes are not equal and I have seen specific
occurrences of tin whiskers. I recommend that anyone who is considering
using an immersion tin pwb chemistry to conduct a complete material review
to insure that the solderability, tin whisker, thermal excursion robustness
and soldermask compatibility aspects of that specific chemistry are very
well understood. As Doug as said "everything may not always be as good as
the salesperson claims".
Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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To add to my email below, I have an application where a transmitter
assembly will be running in the area of 2 gigahertz. Immersion tin
finish was proposed as a cheaper alternative to immersion silver. My
concern was that if even a very small amount of tin whisker migration
occured, it would act as a deflector on the signals in the RF circuit,
much like an antenna. The PWB vendor stated that there are some
immersion tin finishes that provide no danger of whisker growth, and
stated I would have more problems from tin whiskers on the component
terminations than I would from the PWB finish. I find this highly
unlikely. Any input on this?
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Subject: FW: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
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Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:12 PM
To: 'Vladimir Igoshev'
Subject: RE: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
My apologies, Vladimer. I double checked my information. I have a finish
provider whose documentation for a bright tin finish on the PWB claims
it is "whisker-free". That confused me. I went back over the references
I have (NEMI report and "Tin Whiskers: Attributes and Mitigation" by J.
Brusse, G. Ewell and J. Siplon, and other references)and they support
what you are saying. The finish vendor apparently recommends putting the
bright tin over a nickel base, which supposedly mitigates the whisker
formation. Does this make sense?
There is so much conflicting information amongst those providing tin
finishes for components versus tin finishes for circuit boards it is
hard for me to keep it all straight.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Igoshev [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
Richard,
Can you send me the referrence? Unless I'm completely confused, that is
not what I've been hearing.
Vladimir
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To: Vladimir Igoshev
Sent: Thu Mar 16 16:47:42 2006
Subject: RE: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
Thank you. Then why is it reported that matte tin has a greater tendency
to incur tin whiskers? Would it be because of a higher stress factor in
the grain?
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From: Vladimir Igoshev [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:43 PM
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As far as I know, immersion tin is better than mette and of cause bright
ones
Vladimir
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Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
Better than what? Better than it used to be? Could you clarify, as I am
wondering what you mean by that. Thanks.
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Ramon,
Immersion Tin is MUUUUUCH better in terms of whiskering.
Vladimir
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Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
John:
Just curious, what is the tin plating going to be used
on? Thin Tin plating produces whiskers, which can be a nightmare.
Thicker Tin plating helps as a whisker mitigating factor. These whiskers
have shot down a nuclear power plant and caused space craft failures.
Tin plating can very problematic. Whiskers can grow in days or take
years.
Regards,
Ramon
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Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification
John: Generally accepted goal is one micron, or 40 microinches,
thickness.
You essentially never have to worry about it being too thick, and
thickness of less than 75% of that value should raise eyebrows...
Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical Company
John Parsons <[log in to unmask]> wrote: IPC have graciously
provided us (the industry) with specifications for ENIG
(IPC-4552) and Immersion Silver (IPC-4553), is there a similar
specification Immersion Tin (white tin)? If not, is there a generally
accepted specification for material thickness?
John Parsons
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