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-----Original Message-----
From: Stadem, Richard D. 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:12 PM
To: 'Vladimir Igoshev'
Subject: RE: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

My apologies, Vladimer. I double checked my information. I have a finish
provider whose documentation for a bright tin finish on the PWB claims
it is "whisker-free". That confused me. I went back over the references
I have (NEMI report and "Tin Whiskers: Attributes and Mitigation" by J.
Brusse, G. Ewell and J. Siplon, and other references)and they support
what you are saying. The finish vendor apparently recommends putting the
bright tin over a nickel base, which supposedly mitigates the whisker
formation. Does this make sense?
There is so much conflicting information amongst those providing tin
finishes for components versus tin finishes for circuit boards it is
hard for me to keep it all straight. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Igoshev [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:52 PM
To: Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

Richard,

Can you send me the referrence? Unless I'm completely confused, that is
not what I've been hearing.

Vladimir
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Vladimir Igoshev, 519-888-7465 ext.5283


----- Original Message -----
From: Stadem, Richard D. <[log in to unmask]>
To: Vladimir Igoshev
Sent: Thu Mar 16 16:47:42 2006
Subject: RE: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

 
Thank you. Then why is it reported that matte tin has a greater tendency
to incur tin whiskers? Would it be because of a higher stress factor in
the grain?
-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Igoshev [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

As far as I know, immersion tin is better than mette and of cause bright
ones

Vladimir
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Vladimir Igoshev, 519-888-7465 ext.5283


----- Original Message -----
From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu Mar 16 16:39:34 2006
Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

Better than what? Better than it used to be? Could you clarify, as I am
wondering what you mean by that. Thanks.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vladimir Igoshev
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:29 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

Ramon,

Immersion Tin is MUUUUUCH better in terms of whiskering.

Vladimir

Vladimir Igoshev, Ph. D.
Manager, Metallurgical Lab
Research in Motion
451 Phillip St.
Waterloo, ON, N2L 3X2

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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dehoyos, Ramon
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification


 

        John:
                Just curious, what is the tin plating going to be used
on? Thin Tin plating produces whiskers, which can be a nightmare.
Thicker Tin plating helps as a whisker mitigating factor. These whiskers
have shot down a nuclear power plant and caused space craft failures.
Tin plating can very problematic. Whiskers can grow in days or take
years.
        Regards,
        Ramon

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of R Sedlak
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Tin Specification

John:  Generally accepted goal is one micron, or 40 microinches,
thickness.

You essentially never have to worry about it being too thick, and
thickness of less than 75% of that value should raise eyebrows...

Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical Company

John Parsons <[log in to unmask]> wrote: IPC have graciously
provided us (the industry) with specifications for ENIG
(IPC-4552) and Immersion Silver (IPC-4553), is there a similar
specification Immersion Tin (white tin)?  If not, is there a generally
accepted specification for material thickness?

John Parsons






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