Well that was interesting, thanks for all who sent me e-mails - good and
bad!!
Here is some dialogue that was sent through from SMART link.
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Burke
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Nick Jolly'; 'SMART Group smart-e-link'
Subject: RE: [SMART] Presentation link request on John
The presentation was just that - the electronics industry IS drowning
but the difference here is that not too many years ago the "beach" was
actually a desert.
I would use the analogy of the RoHS legislation being more like a flash
flood. These as we all know can be very destructive, I believe what the
industry needs to do is focus and channel the legislative energies for a
win win.
I would not presume to set up a political system - because I do not have
the knowledge. The politicians are doing a pretty good job in proving
they know nothing about the polluting effects of lead in solders.
Given the crazy lead ban in solders that came out of the first go around
- who knows what will come out of design based legislative initiatives?
Interesting thing at the JEDEC-IPC conference this week was the amount
of compliments on your ex employers - the UK DTI.
Steve Andrews got a lot of compliments and the DTI is an example of "how
to" in terms of information updating in the industry.
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Jolly [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:01 AM
To: 'SMART Group smart-e-link'; John Burke
Subject: RE: [SMART] Presentation link request on John
John
Enjoyed the read. A couple of points though.
The RoHS requirements were originally part of the WEEE Directive so you
can't say WEEE came first, It was UK and the EU's DG Industry that got
them
separated so that there would be a common standard amongst member
states.
Otherwise, with WEEE being an Article 175 Directive, countries could
legislate tighter than the current RoHS requirements, and some wanted to
do
so - at least one country has had to repeal one of it's laws. UK was
also
the only member state represented by an government department for
industry,
the others were all represented by environmental departments.
WEEE and RoHS have also been taken on board by the EFTA countries so is
wider that EU.
Getting a single voice has usually proved impossible and not always
beneficial, it requires organisations in each member state to lobby
their
own government and it didn't happen.
One of the problems industry faces is that it has consistantly said that
something can't be done but when the chips (excuse the pun) are down,
achieves it. I remember when US was saying Pb-free wasn't possible but
Japan was launching products that were. Industry needs to be able to
read
the runes and go with the flow so that it can be in a position to
influence
matters rather than trying to do a King Canute and getting drowned by
the
incoming tide.
Regards
Nick Jolly
-----Original Message-----
From: SMART Group smart-e-link
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Sent: 09 March 2006 16:47
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Subject: [SMART] Presentation link request on John
Hi Dave - thanks for asking! , IPC Lead free list members, TechNet and
SMART
Group good morning/afternoon/evening.
Here is a link to last evenings talk on RoHS data handling and legal
aspects, and also views on how the industry got where it is - and thank
you
to all who turned up at Santa Clara IEEE CPMT meeting yesterday evening.
http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/cpmt/presentations/cpmt0603a.pdf
The history of how we got where we are with the RoHS legislation and my
views on the way forward start on page 8 of that PDF version of the
presentation.
Copying this to TechNet and SMART group for information also.
Kind regards,
John Burke
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-----Original Message-----
From: MA/NY DDave [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:55 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; John Burke
Subject: Re: [TN] soldering to PdAg cap
Hi John, Werner, IPC LF Listservers,
Oh Well, even though this was private it has now been public, and I see
no
harm in asking my question. If i did I wouldn't ask.
<=======
Werner,
I am speaking there tonight at the IEEE dinner.
Be there, the presentation will be a call for action..................
IEEE
will be posting it to their web site after the talk. <========
John, or maybe Harvey, or even Joe is this the IEEE Santa Clara group
and
would you mind giving us the link to download John's talk in powerpoint
or
pdf.
Yours in Engineering, Dave
YiEngr, MA/NY DDave
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