Hi Gerald! I'll cast my vote with the other TechNet comments that you are
looking at some type of flux incompatibility that resulted in arcing. The
circuit voltage may have been within the requirements but if there was
contamination between the terminals you had shorting begin due to
electrochemical migration - as the dendrites (from the contamination) grew
between the terminals and made a more conductive electrical connection you
began to have arcing. You might see if you can get both a SEM and a FTIR
analysis of the black crud and identify the elements present - that more or
may not reveal some clues on the arcing/contamination theories. Good Luck.
Dave
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Voltage in circuit was well within connector rating and electrical
clearance distance was well within limits.
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hi,
it looks as though there was electrical arcing across these terminals.
was high voltage or high voltage and high altitude involved?
phil
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Hi All!
I got the pictures posted now. Click on the links below:
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all I can say is; "D-A-A-A-N-N-G!"
-Steve Gregory-
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Thanks. I did realize Technet strips attachments. I tried embedding them
directly within the e-mail. They did not lake that either so I forwared
the attached photos to Steve.
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Bogert,
All attachments are stripped off on Technet postings. Perhaps Steve
Gregory can post them on his website. Else if you can provide a link to
a Net site...
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I don't see any photos.
Rich K / KEDS
260.925.8719
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March 1, 2006
Folks, the three attached photographs show some problems an OEM of ours
is having. Specifically, he hand solders two MIL-W-16878 silver coated
stranded wires to a MIL SPEC connector that has solder eyelets plated
with 50 microinch of gold. Sn10 WRMAP flux cored solder is used with no
additional flux added. The OEM has had recent rash of failures in
fielded equipment. We do not know the cause yet. We are having the black
residue shown sent out for analysis but no results yet.
The solder joints do not appear to be acceptable to me. One can see
exposed gold on the gold-plated connector contact eyelets. Appears to be
non-wetting??? Also, appears to be excess solder since strands are not
always visible in the joint. The OEM tins the stranded wire with
Sn63 prior to soldering.
Do you folks have any ideas on what the problem could be? There is
detailed info on the photographs on the application of the product. The
connector provides power to a solenoid that actuates a valve.
The application is hermetic sealed by welding the connector to a metal
housing that contains the solenoid winding. The wires connecting to the
connector are the MIL-W-16878 silver coated stranded lead wires that
connect from the gold plated connector pins on one end to the MIL SPEC
magnet wires on the solenoid on the other end. The solenoid is varnished
(DIP process, no vacuum).
I am aware that silver plated wire in an SO2 environment can cause
corrosion, but we use a lot of silver coated wire in other product with
no known corrosion problems.
The connector housing has a small vent port into which air is applied to
do a pressure seal test. After the pressure test is completed, the vent
hole plug is welded closed. We are checking to see if the air could have
had moisture in it.
Dielectric strength, insulation resistance and functional testing is
done on the solenoid after assembly is completed and all tests passed.
However, failures occur in the field.
Since the flux used in the SN10 flux-cored solder is RMA, one would
normally not expect the black residue to be due to RMA flux but I am not
sure. We will probably know for certain after we get the test results on
the black crud.
Any insight you may have into into this problem would be appreciated.
Please e-mail your response to following e-mail address:
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