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I think your auditor may be drunk with power.  Measuring in both units will
only cause confusion at best or possibly lead to increased variation in your
data collection process at worst.  

 

Maybe you should remind the auditor that mixing units is what caused NASA's
Mars Climate Explorer to crash.

 

Of course, you could make a business case for just smiling and doing what
the auditor requests; you know, the whole path of least resistance thing,
pick your battles, etc.  

 

Regards,

 

Rick Todd

Senior Engineer

Process Quality Engineering

 

Panasonic Automotive Systems Company of America

Division of Panasonic Corporation of North America

776 Highway 74 South, Peachtree City, GA 30269

770-515-1087 Direct

770-486-2218 Fax

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Rick,

Why ever would an auditor ask that you do this? This is way out of line.

Why don't you tell the auditor you will have an answer tomorrow at 1:00
p.m., or would he like it at 1300 military time instead? 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:30 AM

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Subject: Re: [TN] System International Units versus Imperial English units??

 

Ridiculous bureaucracy. :-( It is perfectly legal, even in the USA, to use
the metric system as a unique method and has been since the 19th century,
1866 to be precise (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system_in_the_United_States ).

 

Of course, whether you comply with the request of the auditor or not is up
to you but, IMHO, he has no grounds for enforcing the issue. If your house
specs say n °C ±m °C, you are perfectly in your rights to keep it at that.

 

Brian

 

Rick Thompson wrote:

> We have a customer who is questioning how we audit soldering iron
temperatures per J-STD-001D.  All of our monitoring is done in Celsius which
is the main unit of measure in the standard. Imperial English (Fahrenheit)
is only used as a reference shown in parentheses.  The auditor is insisting
that we need to measure in both units, i.e. we have a temperature with a +/-
15C tolerance and we would also need to measure it in degrees F at +/- 27F.

> 

> My question is has anyone come up against this type of issue and how did
you handle it?  We've cited the section of the standard where it explicitly
indicates that the IE units are equivalent and shown for reference only but
this response was deemed as 'inadequate'.  I'd typically put this in the
category of Friday afternoon humor except we have a corrective action to
respond to due to this.

> 

> Thanks for any comments or feedback.

> 

>  

> Rick Thompson

> Sr. SMT Process Engineer

> CTS Electronics Manufacturing Solutions

>  

> +1 (805) 532-2800   x-193

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> www.ctscorp.com

>  

> 

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