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All,

Perhaps the vendor is stating they are RoHS complaint and claiming exemption #6 from the Annex which
reads as follows..

6. Lead as an alloying element in steel containing up to 0,35 % lead by weight, aluminium containing
up to 0,4 % lead
by weight and as a copper alloy containing up to 4 % lead by weight.

Lead is allowed in copper as long as it is 4% or less of the total weight.

Jackie Taylor
Component Engineer
3Dlabs Inc. - A Creative Technology Company

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Phil,
        If the homogenous copper 'amalgam' contains more than 0.1% lead by
weight, the part is not compliant. I have seen quite a few vendors using
this "compliant except for" terminology, and find it alternately amusing and
aggravating. Your part is either compliant or it's not, there's no
in-between. That's like your daughter coming home and saying she's just a
little bit pregnant....

Mike McMonagle
Quality Engineer
OYO Geospace
7007 Pinemont Drive
Houston, TX 77040
713-986-8650


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] verifying RoHS Compliance

Mike

If the lead is a part of the alloy for ductility isn't it then
homogeneous?  If not, then we are forced to remove this vendor from our
approved vendor list.

This brings up my e-mail to the IPC Lead-Free mail list, which I have
copied below.

OK, here goes a short rant.

I received an internal "New Part Number Request" form with a part that
the vendor says will be compliant by 7/1/06.

HELLO!!! I need all my parts to be compliant by 4/1/06 (at the latest)
so I can integrate (assemble) them and test my product before shipping.
Are these vendors so arrogant that they don't realize the potential pain
this will cause their customers?  Are they going to pay for the lost
revenue because we didn't get compliant parts until the day we need to
ship completed products?

Note to vendors, if you can't supply compliant parts when I need them
I'll find one that will.

Sigh. I feel better now, so I'll get off my soapbox.

Just my opinion, please don't be offended.

Are there any industry icons, movers and shakers or other influential
types out there that are listening that can help wake up manufacturers?


Being compliant BY 7/1/06 just ain't gonna cut it!

Phil Nutting

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael McMonagle
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] verifying RoHS Compliance

Kelly,
        If they are telling you they are compliant EXCEPT for lead in
copper, they are not fully compliant with RoHS....

Mike McMonagle
Quality Engineer
OYO Geospace
7007 Pinemont Drive
Houston, TX 77040
713-986-8650


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kelly Vavak
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:11 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] verifying RoHS Compliance

I am trying to verify RoHS Compliance for our inventory. I have a
question about a response I got from T&B. Their answer for many of their
products is "Compliant under RoHS except lead in copper". Can anyone
tell me if this is truly OK under the directive? Thanks for any help on
this.



Kelly D. Vavak

Associate Manufacturing Engineer

Kaiser Systems, Inc.

978-922-9300 X2323




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