Not many managers are going to like this but...
If there was a Union for designers, I would join because:
a. they would work to protect my job here in the usa (call me
xenophobic if you want)
b. ... your ideas on how a union would help Designers Council members
(not the Designers Counsel itself) go here ...
This Union would have a logo/graphic "bug" much like the printers union,
that indicated the design was done by a union member, which could be
inconspicuously placed on any board.
Regards-
Michael Howell
*Howell Electronic Services <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Emhowell777> *
4474 Hillcrest Road, Medford, OR 97504
541-734-2666 tel / 541-601-0887 cell
George Patrick wrote:
>Sorry, Cherie, but if you can't mark a board MADE IN USA unless every
>part is MADE IN USA (an absolute impossibility), is seems reasonable to
>any government weenie that it can't be marked DESIGNED IN USA unless
>everything used in the design was DESIGNED IN USA. Remember, everything
>not specifically permitted is prohibited when you're dealing with the
>government...
>
>And you'll have the Department of Redundancy Department after you for
>arguing about it, too <:^)
>
>--=20
>George Patrick
>Tektronix, Inc.
>Central Engineering, Engineering Design Services
>P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
>Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
>Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
>http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
>It's my opinion, not Tektronix'=20
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Litson, Cherie
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:36
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [DC] "Designed in USA"
>
>
>Excuse me???? (I can't let this one slip by.) Software does not
>"design" a board. It's just a tool that is used to do the work. Even if
>you auto route, the "Designer" has to set up all the rules to make that
>work.
>
>Cherie
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>George Patrick
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:38 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [DC] "Designed in USA"
>
>Depends on which software package you use, Gary. Can't have DESIGNED IN
>USA on a board if you are using software programmed off shore :)
>
>--
>George Patrick
>Tektronix, Inc.
>Central Engineering, Engineering Design Services P.O. Box 500, M/S
>39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
>Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
>http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
>It's my opinion, not Tektronix'=20
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gary
>M. Koven
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 06:29
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [DC] "Designed in USA"
>
>
>Most of us in the USA who've been designing boards for several years
>might remember when we could put "MADE IN USA" on our boards and we did
>so with pride.
>
>
>
>Then in 1997 the Federal Trade Commission issued their "ENFORCEMENT
>POLICY STATEMENT ON U.S. ORIGIN CLAIMS (Federal Trade Commission,
>December 1997)".
>You can Google it and read all the legalese.
>
>
>
>Since then, except for the exceedingly rare situation whereby a company
>fabricates all its glass and assembles all its components totally in the
>USA, we can't, and don't, put "MADE IN USA" on our boards any more.
>
>
>
>But how about "DESIGNED IN USA"? Is anybody in this forum putting
>"DESIGNED IN USA" on their boards? That would seem to be permissible
>within the legalese of the FTC document under Section B, "Claims about
>Specific Processes or Parts".
>
>
>
>Or have our oligarchs, with their offshoring of PCB assembly, already
>rendered "DESIGNED IN USA" also a dead horse?
>
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards,
>
>
>
>----------------------------
>
>Gary M. Koven, C.I.D.
>
>Dynazign, Inc.
>
>Charlotte, NC, USA
>
>Veteran of the Marsh School
>
>
>
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