There are many differences between 6012 and 31032. First of all, 31032
requires the customer to specify many of the attributes that 6012 defines.
There are some defaults but overall the intent is to allow the customer to
specify the requirements, not the government.
There is a requirement (possibly the main part of 31032) to provide a
quality plan that the US government must approve prior to listing on the
QML. (Qualifiied Manufacturers List)
As far as limiting 31032 to US companies only this is the first I've heard
of it. I know that Canadian companies are being certified...
Pete
>From: Jeffrey Bush <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, Jeffrey Bush
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] MIL-PRT-31032 vs IPC-6012
>Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:35:44 -0400
>
>MIL-PRF-31032 has many of the same components as IPC-6012. However, the
>certify products to MIL-RPF-31032 you must be a qualified house on the
>Qualified Manufacturers Listing (QML). There are not plans to qualify
>shops outside the USA.
>
>Jeffrey Bush
>Director, Quality Assurance and Technical Support
>
>VERMONT CIRCUITS INCORPORATED
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of "Sefika ÖZKAL"
>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:59 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [TN] MIL-PRT-31032 vs IPC-6012
>
>Dear Technetters,
>
>What are the differences between MIL-PRT-31032 and IPC-6012? Can I find a
>document which is describing the differences between these two standards?
>
>May pcbs built using IPC-6012 be acceptible by MIL-PRT-31032 standards?
>
>Sefika
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Ball
>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:17 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] New IPC email forum
>
>Seems to me there is room for all. It's a big old world. I don't think too
>many people would bail from this forum if a FAB forum was created. And if a
>FAB forum would bring more people out, that'd be good.
>
>I learned of this forum via the DesignerCouncil forum. For my profession,
>which is board design and all that goes with it, this forum may be the best
>resource I've come across, though more specific forums exist. It's even
>useful for lawnmower repair! The diverse expertise of the participants (and
>some of the puns) make it great.
>
>But I don't bring up ECAD specific issues here. And I'm not interested in
>knowing how to calibrate an Acme V-score machine (today, anyway), though I
>don't mind receiving emails about it. If a FAB specific forum existed for
>people who ONLY care about that today, we might find a lot of them in THIS
>forum somewhere down the road.
>
>If you want to get everybody together in the same place, the first thing
>you have to do is get them all moving towards the center, right?
>
>Maybe not. Just my thoughts on the subject...
>
>-Chris
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> Brian Ellis
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> 10/06/2005 03:34 AM
> Please respond to TechNet
> E-Mail Forum; Please
> respond to Brian Ellis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Has no one ever heard of concurrent engineering? If there were no
>assemblers to give feedback to the fab guys and no fab guys to tell the
>assemblers what they can or cannot do, then we would have no industry at
>all. I'll go farther, the designers must be in the equation, AND the
>development engineers, AND the purchasing managers. If we cannot all
>talk with one voice or sing the same song, then we are wasting valuable
>company funds. All these guys MUST talk with each other, all the time
>and any schism is counter-productive. Even if we work in different
>factories doing different jobs, our aim is to produce one single article
>as economically as possible, while respecting the technical imperatives.
>Splitting knowledge apart will not achieve this and, taking this to a
>logical conclusion, we shall split the IPC into two or more separate
>organisations, each believing they are holier than the others, with zero
>dialogue.
>
>Personally, I have been professionally working with printed circuitry
>since 1955 (yes, 50 whole years!!!) and I have had deep experience in
>all the aspects of the business from being a development engineer,
>through designer and vendor of designing tools, director of a high-tech
>PCB fab plant, assembler AND purchaser and I **KNOW** that you cannot
>isolate any one aspect from the others. In fact, I'll go so far as to
>say that most, possibly as much as 90%, of the problems encountered
>within our industry are because of lack of communications between the
>various factions who prefer to isolate themselves in an ivory tower and
>hope the rest of the world bends round their ideas. So, in the name of
>sanity and efficiency in our industry, do NOT split (rather, merge more
>of the guys in the equation.
>
>Brian
>
>Franklin Asbell wrote:
> > With a show of hands (yes, we can see you) how many out there would be
> > interested in subscribing to an IPC email forum for pcb (rigid, flex,
> > rigid-flex, hi-rel, mil, etc) fabrication topics.
> >
> > Franklin
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